Death by Dangerous Cycling

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James said:
Sorry but that entire post is utterly laughable. One look at mode share of the Netherlands or Denmark tells you that cycling literally is a direct replacement for car trips. The vast majority of car trips are under 2km, make those trips safe and convenient for people to cycle and they will, as shown by endless studies.

People are not cycling because it is perceived to be dangerous. Again, endless studies on this which return the same result. People don't even consider cycling as a method of travel because it's terrifying for large parts.

It's not a past time or hobby, it's the future of travel in cities. Don't confuse the two. Same as F1 driving and people who just drive to work.
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No, it is utterly true.

The Netherlands and Denmark are like a billiard table man! They have an unusually high bike usage, good for them.

Brits aren’t interested in replacing their cars with bikes, safety might be a concern for some, but many just want to keep their cars. If you think a bike is a direct replacement for a car, then you need to think a bit harder!

I’m sure people say all sorts of well meaning things for the clipboard brigade, but when it comes down to it, they like jumping in their warm, comfortable cars and getting done in half an hour what would take half a day on a bike.
 
Frijj said:
No different to the cyclist morons putting helmets on with cameras to film themselves antagonising drivers.
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you think a cyclist wearing a go pro for their own safety is no different to someone pulling out their phone to record someone pushing a cyclist off his bike from a car. facetious right? right?

Morse said:
No, it is utterly true.

The Netherlands and Denmark are like a billiard table man! They have an unusually high bike usage, good for them.

Brits aren’t interested in replacing their cars with bikes, safety might be a concern for some, but many just want to keep their cars. If you think a bike is a direct replacement for a car, then you need to think a bit harder!

I’m sure people say all sorts of well meaning things for the clipboard brigade, but when it comes down to it, they like jumping in their warm, comfortable cars and getting done in half an hour what would take half a day on a bike.
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this is a good post (aside from the half an hour half a day thing). it also explains why we're a nanny state full of fat kernts. :lol:
 
Morse said:
No, it is utterly true.

The Netherlands and Denmark are like a billiard table man! They have an unusually high bike usage, good for them.

Brits aren’t interested in replacing their cars with bikes, safety might be a concern for some, but many just want to keep their cars. If you think a bike is a direct replacement for a car, then you need to think a bit harder!

I’m sure people say all sorts of well meaning things for the clipboard brigade, but when it comes down to it, they like jumping in their warm, comfortable cars and getting done in half an hour what would take half a day on a bike.
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From leaving home going to work it takes 55 minutes on public transport, 40-45 minutes in my bike or a minimum of 40 minutes in the car.
The reason cycling won’t be the primary mode of transport in this country is laziness
 
Morse said:
No, it is utterly true.

The Netherlands and Denmark are like a billiard table man! They have an unusually high bike usage, good for them.

Brits aren’t interested in replacing their cars with bikes, safety might be a concern for some, but many just want to keep their cars. If you think a bike is a direct replacement for a car, then you need to think a bit harder!

I’m sure people say all sorts of well meaning things for the clipboard brigade, but when it comes down to it, they like jumping in their warm, comfortable cars and getting done in half an hour what would take half a day on a bike.
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What a massive exaggeration to make your point sound credible.
 
Morse said:
No, it is utterly true.

The Netherlands and Denmark are like a billiard table man! They have an unusually high bike usage, good for them.

Brits aren’t interested in replacing their cars with bikes, safety might be a concern for some, but many just want to keep their cars. If you think a bike is a direct replacement for a car, then you need to think a bit harder!

I’m sure people say all sorts of well meaning things for the clipboard brigade, but when it comes down to it, they like jumping in their warm, comfortable cars and getting done in half an hour what would take half a day on a bike.
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My commute to work in London involves less climbs (zero) than it did in Amsterdam. Unless you live in Sheffield or something its not an issue, even less so with the rise of electric assist bikes.

Your point about people and their cars is fair, but you have to look at why thats the case. Over the decades we've made driving the easiest, quickest and most convenient way of getting around. The Dutch don't cycle because they have a love for cycling and exercise, it's just the easiest and quickest way to get from A to B. You don't even think about it.

If you're driving 40m miles to work or whatever you obviously cannot replace that with a bicycle trip and I'd never say you should. Like I said before though, that trip is an exception. A staggeringly high percentage of car trips are within walkable distance, never mind cycle distance. That's where enormous change needs to happen to enable people to cycle safely and get out of cars.

With increasing urbanisation and congestion its simply the future of transport in urban areas. We're just lagging behind the curve at the minute in the UK with a motor obsessed government and a shambles of a transport secretary.
 
Brian Griffin said:
Some angry cyclists here.
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So would you be.

I was trying to stop under control after an explosive puncture (cycling in the gutter) when a bloke slowed next to me to give me a mouthful. I challenged him to pull in for a chat about it and he did about 100yds ahead. He got out of the car and walked towards me, then realised as he got closer that I was about a foot taller than him and he ran back to his motor. I ran after him for a laugh. The traffic was stopped and everything, it was brilliant.
 
James said:
My commute to work in London involves less climbs (zero) than it did in Amsterdam. Unless you live in Sheffield or something its not an issue, even less so with the rise of electric assist bikes.

Your point about people and their cars is fair, but you have to look at why thats the case. Over the decades we've made driving the easiest, quickest and most convenient way of getting around. The Dutch don't cycle because they have a love for cycling and exercise, it's just the easiest and quickest way to get from A to B. You don't even think about it.

If you're driving 40m miles to work or whatever you obviously cannot replace that with a bicycle trip and I'd never say you should. Like I said before though, that trip is an exception. A staggeringly high percentage of car trips are within walkable distance, never mind cycle distance. That's where enormous change needs to happen to enable people to cycle safely and get out of cars.

With increasing urbanisation and congestion its simply the future of transport in urban areas. We're just lagging behind the curve at the minute in the UK with a motor obsessed government and a shambles of a transport secretary.
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Down south I regularly used to beat the lads in cars doing the exact same route. 50 minutes for them to do 8 miles, I was showered and changed before they got in :)
 
The Exile said:
So would you be.

I was trying to stop under control after an explosive puncture (cycling in the gutter) when a bloke slowed next to me to give me a mouthful. I challenged him to pull in for a chat about it and he did about 100yds ahead. He got out of the car and walked towards me, then realised as he got closer that I was about a foot taller than him and he ran back to his motor. I ran after him for a laugh. The traffic was stopped and everything, it was brilliant.
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Love getting involved in road rage when on my bike. Loads of car drivers give it billy big bollocks out of their car windows then speed off only to do an inbetweeners and get stuck in traffic 50 yards down the road.
 
The Exile said:
So would you be.

I was trying to stop under control after an explosive puncture (cycling in the gutter) when a bloke slowed next to me to give me a mouthful. I challenged him to pull in for a chat about it and he did about 100yds ahead. He got out of the car and walked towards me, then realised as he got closer that I was about a foot taller than him and he ran back to his motor. I ran after him for a laugh. The traffic was stopped and everything, it was brilliant.
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This didn’t happen. You’re a liar, a fantasist and above all, soft as clarts.
 
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