NUFC/Sportswashing - Summer 2022

[Exile 1968]

Binxy man, we've been over this, the Saudi bid was the only show in town. Had the other groups had a bid accepted and the Saudis weren't around there'd have been 100k signatures trying to get that one through and all.

There wouldn't have been Fish. You're talking bollocks. They had meeting in the Labour club to discuss the reaction to them when it first got mooted & 97% voted in favour.

 

[Roker Mackem]

I guess I grew out of hating you lot in my teens. Of course I want your team to languish in the lower leagues, get beaten by Luton, have players take the piss like Rodwell did, and all that. But I don't hate you all. You just support a different football team. It'd be like hating someone who aren't fans of the bands I am. It's just a bit childish, isn't it?

Unfortunately its not just football team stuff. Theres a really nasty streak from both sides towards the others City/area. I feel like it comes more from you lot towards us though (could just be bias mind).

 

[offmenut]

I guess I grew out of hating you lot in my teens. Of course I want your team to languish in the lower leagues, get beaten by Luton, have players take the piss like Rodwell did, and all that. But I don't hate you all. You just support a different football team. It'd be like hating someone who aren't fans of the bands I am. It's just a bit childish, isn't it?

That’s me too. I guess moving away from the area and also having very good friends who support Newcastle helped. When my mate took his Bairns to their first ever nufc game I was actually pleased that nufc won for them.
I love the craic with them.
However that’s all stopped now as nufc are a disgusting sportswashed team who have a fascist dictator owning them.
It’s sad like, but we don’t have banter about football anymore

 

[Thatheaderman]

Cant have banter with them. Simply " your owners are f***ing vile" and end of conversation.

 

[The Fish]

OK if you say so.

If there was multiple bids on the table there's only one set the fans would have wanted.

You know it and everyone knows it.

What is it about people just 30 miles North from Sunderland who work similar jobs, go to similar pubs, drink similar beer, eat similar food, watch similar tv, listen to similar music that would make them choose to be owned by a barbaric regime, rather than someone else? Are you so sure those that people, who are similar in every regard aside from the team they support, are so keen on the Saudis above all others?

Give your head a shake man, you're a grown up.

 

[ilovehorswill]

Cant have banter with them. Simply " your owners are f***ing vile" and end of conversation.

The current crop of gravy gobblers aren’t here for footy bants or taking about the North East.

They’re here to distract from the very real fact their club’s been bought by a “murderous regime” (not my words, Chi Onwurah’s) to change the conversation about many human rights abuses too numerous to mention here.

 

[The Fish]

Cant have banter with them. Simply " your owners are f***ing vile" and end of conversation.

They are. See, we can be friends!"

 

[Binxy]

What is it about people just 30 miles North from Sunderland who work similar jobs, go to similar pubs, drink similar beer, eat similar food, watch similar tv, listen to similar music that would make them choose to be owned by a barbaric regime, rather than someone else? Are you so sure those that people, who are similar in every regard aside from the team they support, are so keen on the Saudis above all others?

Give your head a shake man, you're a grown up.

Do you live in a cave?

 

[Hyltons finest]

What is it about people just 30 miles North from Sunderland who work similar jobs, go to similar pubs, drink similar beer, eat similar food, watch similar tv, listen to similar music that would make them choose to be owned by a barbaric regime, rather than someone else? Are you so sure those that people, who are similar in every regard aside from the team they support, are so keen on the Saudis above all others?

Give your head a shake man, you're a grown up.

Because they might just spend a bit more than someone else. And that completely sells it (despite the horrendous regime and sportswashing)

 

[ilovehorswill]

Do you live in a cave?

He doesn’t believe what he’s saying tbf

Trying to defend his beloved mags as he deflects the wider topic of KSA using his club like a condom

 

[The Fish]

Do you live in a cave?

No, I'm just not so blinded by partisan rivalry that I'll ignore reality.

If the Mexicans had bought us and done exactly the same things, you'd be desperately tying yourself in knots to say how awful they are as well.

Saudis are awful, but Ashley accepted their bid and their bid alone, the PL waited until the broadcasting theft was sorted, the FA didn't give a toss and the UK Government were happy as Larry to accept more Saudi cash. So... I guess your issue should be with them, really? Oh and the dozen or so dickheads in tea towels, fuck those lads.

 

[Binxy]

No, I'm just not so blinded by partisan rivalry that I'll ignore reality.

If the Mexicans had bought us and done exactly the same things, you'd be desperately tying yourself in knots to say how awful they are as well.

Saudis are awful, but Ashley accepted their bid and their bid alone, the PL waited until the broadcasting theft was sorted, the FA didn't give a toss and the UK Government were happy as Larry to accept more Saudi cash. So... I guess your issue should be with them, really? Oh and the dozen or so dickheads in tea towels, fuck those lads.

Dozen or so.

 

[The Fish]

Dozen or so.

Howay then, show us these thousands of tea towel wearing flag waving Saudi fans then.

 

[ilovehorswill]

No, I'm just not so blinded by partisan rivalry that I'll ignore reality.

If the Mexicans had bought us and done exactly the same things, you'd be desperately tying yourself in knots to say how awful they are as well.

Saudis are awful, but Ashley accepted their bid and their bid alone, the PL waited until the broadcasting theft was sorted, the FA didn't give a toss and the UK Government were happy as Larry to accept more Saudi cash. So... I guess your issue should be with them, really? Oh and the dozen or so dickheads in tea towels, fuck those.

Nobody’s tying themselves into knots here. You literally say “Saudis are awful” in the next breath.

Torture is used as a punishment​

Executions are on the increase​

No free speech​

No protests​

Women are widely discriminated against​

You can be detained and arrested with no good reason​

Religious discrimination is rife​

Human rights organisations banned​

LGBT people criminalised and executed​

 

[Binxy]

No, I'm just not so blinded by partisan rivalry that I'll ignore reality.

If the Mexicans had bought us and done exactly the same things, you'd be desperately tying yourself in knots to say how awful they are as well.

Saudis are awful, but Ashley accepted their bid and their bid alone, the PL waited until the broadcasting theft was sorted, the FA didn't give a toss and the UK Government were happy as Larry to accept more Saudi cash. So... I guess your issue should be with them, really? Oh and the dozen or so dickheads in tea towels, fuck those lads.

ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND that's ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND begged to have them knowing full well what they are, so don't patronise me with that shite.

 

[Mackem2017]

Steve Wraith really does sell the most tackiest shite doesn’t he

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[Rodderz]

Howay then, show us these thousands of tea towel wearing flag waving Saudi fans then.

No, I'm just not so blinded by partisan rivalry that I'll ignore reality.

If the Mexicans had bought us and done exactly the same things, you'd be desperately tying yourself in knots to say how awful they are as well.

Saudis are awful, but Ashley accepted their bid and their bid alone, the PL waited until the broadcasting theft was sorted, the FA didn't give a toss and the UK Government were happy as Larry to accept more Saudi cash. So... I guess your issue should be with them, really? Oh and the dozen or so dickheads in tea towels, fuck those lads.

Tbf, I accept it's a handful (raising the flag), but since the takeover, I've been to plenty of gigs in Newcastle and nights out around the town, and witnessed plenty waving the Saudi flag. Again, I accept that Newcastle fans probably couldn't have done anything to stop the takeover, even if they wanted to, however, the fact there is absolutely zero calling out your new owners for there abuses in Saudi, is where things are wrong, your gay supporters group have even rolled over and not said a word, the same community is literally killed by the same people who own your club, for being themselves - a lot of your supporters/extreme right wing nutjobs, will all say "it's there country, respect there rules" - no. Call it out for what it is, inhumane, disgusting treatment of human beings. Yes, the UK Government is happy to accept there cash, again though, call it out, in this country you're lucky enough to have a vote every 4 years, use it, vote for the parties that want to stop trade with dictatorships. Don't just accept things with whataboutery.

Stop rolling over and accepting Sportswashing, raise awareness, although unlikely, be a pathway for your owners to change. Most Sunderland accept that the takeover has happened, but what most Sunderland fans despise seeing, is Newcastle fans, people of the North East, celebrating a regime known for murder, torture and damn right disgusting treatment of there own people. The North East of England is better than that in general. Literally makes my skin crawl seeing that flag held aloft around Newcastle.

 

[The Fish]

Nobody’s tying themselves into knots here. You literally say “Saudis are awful” in the next breath.

Torture is used as a punishment​

Executions are on the increase​

No free speech​

No protests​

Women are widely discriminated against​

You can be detained and arrested with no good reason​

Religious discrimination is rife​

Human rights organisations banned​

LGBT people criminalised and executed​

They are awful and shouldn't own any football club. But they do. UAE shouldn't own a football club, but they do. Qatar shouldn't own a football club, but they do.

I haven't seen any Newcastle fan defend their regime on here. I've seen Newcastle fans explain, with a great deal of patience, that Newcastle fans aren't supporting Saudi Arabia by continuing to support the club they've supported their whole life and will continue to support after the Saudis are gone.

Hell, a new government might see the Saudis booted out.

Tbf, I accept it's a handful (raising the flag), but since the takeover, I've been to plenty of gigs in Newcastle and nights out around the town, and witnessed plenty waving the Saudi flag. Again, I accept that Newcastle fans probably couldn't have done anything to stop the takeover, even if they wanted to, however, the fact there is absolutely zero calling out your new owners for there abuses in Saudi, is where things are wrong, your gay supporters group have even rolled over and not said a word, the same community is literally killed by the same people who own your club, for being themselves - a lot of your supporters/extreme right wing nutjobs, will all say "it's there country, respect there rules" - no. Call it out for what it is, inhumane, disgusting treatment of human beings. Yes, the UK Government is happy to accept there cash, again though, call it out, in this country you're lucky enough to have a vote every 4 years, use it, vote for the parties that want to stop trade with dictatorships. Don't just accept things with whataboutery.

Stop rolling over and accepting Sportswashing, raise awareness, although unlikely, be a pathway for your owners to change. Most Sunderland accept that the takeover has happened, but what most Sunderland fans despise seeing, is Newcastle fans, people of the North East, celebrating a regime known for murder, torture and damn right disgusting treatment of there own people. The North East of England is better than that in general. Literally makes my skin crawl seeing that flag held aloft around Newcastle.

For what it's worth I agree that for me, the United in Pride group let themselves down with their stance and statement. However, as a straight man it's not really my place to tell a minority groups how they should make or take their position.

I've not met a single fan who're celebrating that regime. You're mental if you think the pervading opinion among Newcastle fans is that that regime is worth celebrating. I've seen Newcastle fans on here call out that regime, I know I have.

Could there be more public condemnation? Sure. I'd be curious if, once the buzz of the takeover dies down, there are anti-Saudi banners held up by groups amongst NUFC fans.

I hope there are.

 

[Binxy]

They are awful and shouldn't own any football club. But they do. UAE shouldn't own a football club, but they do. Qatar shouldn't own a football club, but they do.

I haven't seen any Newcastle fan defend their regime on here. I've seen Newcastle fans explain, with a great deal of patience, that Newcastle fans aren't supporting Saudi Arabia by continuing to support the club they've supported their whole life and will continue to support after the Saudis are gone.

Hell, a new government might see the Saudis booted out.

100k of your fans signed a petition asking the government to let the Saudis buy you.

That's 100k who supports and endorses the Saudis.

 

[Exile 1968]

They are awful and shouldn't own any football club. But they do. UAE shouldn't own a football club, but they do. Qatar shouldn't own a football club, but they do.

I haven't seen any Newcastle fan defend their regime on here. I've seen Newcastle fans explain, with a great deal of patience, that Newcastle fans aren't supporting Saudi Arabia by continuing to support the club they've supported their whole life and will continue to support after the Saudis are gone.

Hell, a new government might see the Saudis booted out.

They're buying the 3rd kit in their droves man. Its a Saudi National shirt wifth a Mag badge on. Defend & deflect every criticism. Have a word with yourself.