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NUFC/Sportswashing - Summer 2022

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sofatester said:
It's class man it's like a competition with some f***ing spanner constantly defending Kim Jong un against someone defending pope John Francis 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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I've seen it all on here this week mate. There is one constant pattern; going round and round in circles deflecting the truth. I'd have more respect for someone that just said, aye, but I want to see us do well, not some pathetic cabaret of denial
 
Mills and Boon said:
No I didn't. Go back and read what I did say.

I'll sum it up for you. As a Newcastle supporter, the Saudi funding is great for us in terms of improving the club. We will enjoy that, in the same way the the PSG and Man City fans are enjoying their ownership and where it's taken their clubs.

The human rights atrocities that Saudi Arabia commit are bad. I wish they'd pack it in and I condemn them. They're not being committed in support of my club though, and my club doesn't benefit from them in any way. If I stop supporting my club it will not force the Saudis to change their culture which has been set in its ways for quite a bit longer than they've owned our club. So not only do I not want to stop supporting Newcastle, it also wouldn't have any positive effect even if I did.

Can't make it any clearer than that for you, if you still can't wrap your head around it it's on you. Please stop trying to twist my posts into something they're not
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Regarding blue text, OK you're not an apologist though it seems you're turning a blind eye to the owners culture and atrocities because they're rich and accepting their blood money. If they weren't as rich and investing far less but still more than Ashley did would you still have accepted them as owners? I somehow don't think so but because they're rich and spending money then it's OK to own you.

Regarding red text, OK they aren't supporting your club by committing atrocities but they're hoping to benefit in time from your club. Would you accept Putin as long as your club doesn't benefit from his atrocities but he funds it to improve it so you can enjoy it?

It will be interesting to see how your fans react to your owners if the club gets nowhere and just flits about mid table winning nowt and the investment slows up.
 
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The comments from the Saudi bots on this are amazing
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Secret Visage said:
There's about 20 Saudi bots replied. Oh and another 30 arseholes.
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To be fair some mags clearly aren't impressed in some comments as been reading them and saw this one🤣🤣

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Redandwhitedust said:
Leicester won the premiership. They've played in Europe in recent memory.

Don't recall any protests or petitions demanding a change of ownership because the current set up aren't showing "ambition".

They have much more right than Newcastle to expect their club be in the top 6.
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I mean objecting to Mike Ashley on football grounds is open to debate. I personally didn't think he was a terrible owner, I mean he wasn't brilliant either but certainly not as bad as they ever made out. We can't really comment on that, that's down to Mags themselves. Only they can really form their opinion on their owner.

What was laughable was that another thing was that that they seemed to question him on was his morality as a man. They had a go because he advertised his businesses at SJP. I mean that's standard really. It was done in a tacky way but ultimately many many owners use football clubs to advertise their own businesses. Wigan, Stoke, Leicester are a few that come instantly to mind. There will be other examples.

Then there was the issue of his working practices within Sports Direct. I remember there was a parliamentary select panel meeting (whatever they're called) where Newcastle MP Chi Onwurah and others were questioning and condemning his zero hours contracts and working practices within SD warehouses. Again, they were very very interested and critical of a legitimate and legal British businessman and the way he ran his business.

Flip this to when the Saudi state have taken them on.

They're linking the business already with NUFC and of course, their human rights record and crimes are far far worse than anything Mike Ashley has ever done or ever likely to do. So surely they'd be up in arms again right?

I haven't noticed any protests from Mags recently...funny that.
 
Laidback Jack said:
I mean objecting to Mike Ashley on football grounds is open to debate. I personally didn't think he was a terrible owner, I mean he wasn't brilliant either but certainly not as bad as they ever made out. We can't really comment on that, that's down to Mags themselves. Only they can really form their opinion on their owner.

What was laughable was that another thing was that that they seemed to question him on was his morality as a man. They had a go because he advertised his businesses at SJP. I mean that's standard really. It was done in a tacky way but ultimately many many owners use football clubs to advertise their own businesses. Wigan, Stoke, Leicester are a few that come instantly to mind. There will be other examples.

Then there was the issue of his working practices within Sports Direct. I remember there was a parliamentary select panel meeting (whatever they're called) where Newcastle MP Chi Onwurah and others were questioning and condemning his zero hours contracts and working practices within SD warehouses. Again, they were very very interested and critical of a legitimate and legal British businessman and the way he ran his business.

Flip this to when the Saudi state have taken them on.

They're linking the business already with NUFC and of course, their human rights record and crimes are far far worse than anything Mike Ashley has ever done or ever likely to do. So surely they'd be up in arms again right?

I haven't noticed any protests from Mags recently...funny that.
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Yeah. No protests. But that's because the "investment in the region" is just around the corner.

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@Sporty I'm hardly turning a blind eye to the human rights issues if I'm here discussing and condemning them.



Laidback Jack said:
I mean objecting to Mike Ashley on football grounds is open to debate. I personally didn't think he was a terrible owner, I mean he wasn't brilliant either but certainly not as bad as they ever made out. We can't really comment on that, that's down to Mags themselves. Only they can really form their opinion on their owner.

What was laughable was that another thing was that that they seemed to question him on was his morality as a man. They had a go because he advertised his businesses at SJP. I mean that's standard really. It was done in a tacky way but ultimately many many owners use football clubs to advertise their own businesses. Wigan, Stoke, Leicester are a few that come instantly to mind. There will be other examples.

Then there was the issue of his working practices within Sports Direct. I remember there was a parliamentary select panel meeting (whatever they're called) where Newcastle MP Chi Onwurah and others were questioning and condemning his zero hours contracts and working practices within SD warehouses. Again, they were very very interested and critical of a legitimate and legal British businessman and the way he ran his business.

Flip this to when the Saudi state have taken them on.

They're linking the business already with NUFC and of course, their human rights record and crimes are far far worse than anything Mike Ashley has ever done or ever likely to do. So surely they'd be up in arms again right?

I haven't noticed any protests from Mags recently...funny that.
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I think it wasn't so much the advertising of Sports Direct that was the issue, it was that he wasn't paying the club to advertise it. He benefits from that while the club doesn't. I think all the other clubs you mentioned received payment for their advertising too, happy to be corrected on that. Not growing the commercial revenue of the club at all since he got it is a major complaint against his ownership, and it's entirely football related. We'd be in a better place now, and able to spend more regarding FFP, if he wasn't so shite an owner.

Lots of fans did latch onto the zero hour contract stuff, because they didn't like the bloke and thought it was somehow a way to get him out of the club. Same with shouting at shops, calls for boycotts etc.

I wasn't into any of that, mainly because I didn't believe it had any chance of success. I did enjoy ripping the piss out of a pal who frightened the poor staff inside with all the other troglodytes shouting at the shop window though.

Anyway you're right, it's been dropped now as far as I'm aware. Protesting non-football related things when it suits them is a bad look
 
jlaws said:
"Poor old Bazoox is spending so much time in the RTG forum he's becoming a closet mackem"

Where is the evidence of jealousy? I don't have a single ounce of jealousy or salt tears. In fact Bazook I am laughing at you all at how pathetic and shallow you all are.. You beat your chest and give it the big "I am" but little old Sunderland pre-occupy your minds, yours more than most, in a way that you cannot enjoy it. Your behavior over Ashley, shows your hypocrisy, and highlights you would sell your granny to shorten the odds on a trophy. Club back? It is gone forever. The beauty of this journey being made in 2022 onwards is that all of your illogical thoughts and fawning over your new owners will be recorded for ever and we will parade these when the bubble bursts.

Enjoy your daily 6 pints you pathetic, sad, old man.
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Had a bit of a chuckle at his claims in his comments about working with mackems down the docks and they were lazy. As if supporting a football club determines how hard you work 😂 The arrogance and delusion knows no bounds.
 
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