More ‘Hundred’ fuckwittery
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The Breen Machine
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I felt particularly harsh on Finch as I really rate him but him and Morgan are failed test cricketers who have had spells of being world class in the shorter format, and both are approaching mid 30's. I tried to keep the genuine world class list to those who have excelled in all 3 formats and are likely to go down as one of the all-time greats of their era. I'm not sure in 50 years we'll be including Finch and Morgan in that category.
brandon
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Forget to reply to my point? Must be busy directing that company......
Close to home example of what I was talking about - Ex-CEO of Nissan Carlos Ghosn - Former Nissan chair Carlos Ghosn charged with financial misconduct | Carlos Ghosn | The Guardian
It’s over the sum of £35m, far more stands to be lost at the hands of this shambles. I’d argue that much has already been lost. Or atleast ‘hidden’ in the same way Mr Ghosn is being accused.
Non-playing ambassadors aren’t they?!
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Has anyone seen VOFP? Is he alright?
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No, I decided I couldn’t be bothered to argue it
Carlos Ghosn is accused of theft, fraud
unless I’ve missed something very significantly, the Hundred/ECB is being accused of crap planning. That’s apples and bananas
mackembhoy
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Both arguably in the greatest XI for the respective countries ODI and T20. Morgan certainly in englands and captain of the side!!!
The game will improve so that they probably aren't but at current both are world class players.
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The Breen Machine
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Morgan probably, Finch I'm not so sure for 50 overs at least with M.Waugh, Gilchrist and Hayden in the mix.
Not in 3 formats though, they are bone fide test failures who have made it in franchise cricket.
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mackembhoy
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Not sure I agree with that like. Depends on your definition of world class.
You include Archer in world class but then someone like Cook doesn't meet your criteria.
Voice of fair play
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Obviously it's a better standard than the blast by very nature, firstly because there is lesser teams hence more quality and secondly the draft system has meant the best players from the counties have been picked up.
So half the team maybe still county players but it's the best county players!
Not sure how that can be be argued against tbh,
mackembhoy
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What may have been an interesting twist for me is seeing how the winners of the blast fair against these supposed superior teams.
Voice of fair play
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I might be a bit picker here as see your point but a the shorter format, as they have proven year after year in the IPL Russell and Narine are far from journeyman in this shorter format, they have been pivtol in the IPL and in this format Russell is definitely more of a world star than journeyman quite easily imo.
The best county players have been selected or drafted, whichever way you want to put it, so of course they is a better standard as the lesser county players who may have got a game in the blast have not been selected.
That's a pretty straightforward rationale.
It's called work mate! Can't be on here all day as much as I would like to be!
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brandon
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At the moment.
I’d argue there’s more than enough evidence, in very recent history, to suggest they can’t be trusted with money.
GordonMuchallNo1Fan
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Spend your money on Durham
Cumberland
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Apologies, haven’t read all of the threads but I hope this competition falls flat on its arse. I know times change, but back in the 80’s I took my son to test cricket, county cricket, the one day games . No gimmicks required and he fell in love with the game and is now passing this on to the next generation. What happens when after a couple of years crowds dwindle, will there be another ‘innovation’ maybe running in flippers for the last over.
TheRey
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To be fair, running in flippers would be entertaining
Voice of fair play
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We all fell in love with game mate, however unfortunately rightly or wrongly, wrongly imo ,kids nowadays have more other distractions than been interested in cricket, Christ they even have football kids summer leagues now, in the 80s for me it was football in the winter and cricket in the summer.
Now without a shadow of a doubt imo there is not enough passing it into the next generation and imo something needs to be done to increase participation of cricket dwindling at local level proves we can't just rely on generations passing it on.
So I hope it's a success and gets more people playing the game of cricket!
Steak Pie
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They've done away with overs so nothing is sacred, I'm convinced the next "innovation" (gimmick) will be a change in scoring. Something like a target at cow corner to hit for bonus runs, or boundaries count double in the a "super golden power play of doom" or some other load of old shit. Anything that can be sponsored and raved about by an overexcited gonk on commentary.
Cumberland
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Can’t disagree with the voice, times do change but I am an old fossil (surely not I’m only 62).
Voice of fair play
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Times don't always change to suit everyone ,totally get that mate, but think in this case they need too for the long term participation of the game
The Breen Machine
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Cook?
Fair point, but like Morgan and Finch, they aren’t world class across all formats which I think is the true sign of a bone fide top class cricketer. They are admittedly very dangerous limited overs cricketers.
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Voice of fair play
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Or yeah of course that’s a diffrent kettle of fish, was just saying to call Andre Russell a journeyman in the shorter form of the game is wrong imo.
Of course over all 3 formats he is not a world star!
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