More ‘Hundred’ fuckwittery

[Steak Pie]

I think it’s important especially with the opposition from traditional fans, and the fact that there is soo many other distractions these days for kids and families, that if they want to attract those kids and families they need to make it affordable.

Not sure how anyone could really disagree with that principle tbh.

It's just that sentence that tickled me chief, not so serious.

I'm hoping for sunny spring, rain in the middle of summer followed by an unseasonably warm late summer/early autumn.

 

[Voice of fair play]

It's just that sentence that tickled me chief, not so serious.

I'm hoping for sunny spring, rain in the middle of summer followed by an unseasonably warm late summer/early autumn.

No bother mate, I think the bigger picture is we need more people involved in the game, and the hundred will hopefully bring that, I hoping for it to be a massive success and hopefully achieve that bigger picture, that simple really.

 

[brandon]

Those negative on the competition will look at the higer prices rather than the ones most people will be buying. £35 for two adults and 3 kids for 3hours worth or entertainment is pretty good. Hopefully it will be good viewing on the tv

Or perhaps simply those who are realistic.

Remember that their target audience is the ‘uninitiated’ non-followers of cricket. So bearing in mind those early bird prices expire before the cricket season begins, the vast majority of newcomers and casual fans will only be buying tickets when the full price comes into force. Many will even simply walk up to the turnstiles on the day of the game and therefore will have to pay full price.

Using our examples combined, it’ll be £85 (that’s a £50 difference) for a family of two adults and three children. How many folk in Durham and Yorkshire will be happy paying that? Just to get in. That’s before travel, food, drink and merchandise.

I’m actually beginning to think the organisers are now admitting they won’t get anywhere near filling the grounds and are employing the vilest profiteering tactics to force through some sort of balance to their accounts. After the early offer they’re hiking adult prices by 250%. That’s insane.

However when you think that a ground that holds 20,000 would return £150k if it was 50% full of adults and 50% full of children all buying early bird tickets. If only 10,000 turn up, but 5,000 adults paid full whack (and 5,000 kids attended), the ground would be half full (or half empty depending whichever agenda you want to use) yet their gate receipts would be worth £200k.

Ask yourself which one the organisers truly prefer?

Then consider that ever since day 1 of T20 people have suggested that cheaper tickets would be the best way to getting bums on seats.

If the organisers TRULY want to grow the game and that is their ultimate aim, they could charge a tenner for adults and a fiver for kids full stop. No early bird, no late fees, no booking fees. But of course that can’t happen because they’ve created this f***ing massive white elephant and wasted millions of pounds in the process and they MUST somehow save face.

If it goes tits up in the next few years, the people responsible for this complete and utter misappropriation of funds MUST be jailed.

I fear we’re very close now to Allen Stanford territory.

I think people would prefer to pay a fair price to watch world class stars playing

Which is what we have/had with all along with the T20 Blast

exciting close games in the middle of the summer

Which is where the Blast has been before and many said should ALWAYS be.

than mediocre county journeyman in the county game!

Which will only happen as a result of the direct sabotage tactics currently being employed by FTECB.

 

[Voice of fair play]

Or perhaps simply those who are realistic.

Remember that their target audience is the ‘uninitiated’ non-followers of cricket. So bearing in mind those early bird prices expire before the cricket season begins, the vast majority of newcomers and casual fans will only be buying tickets when the full price comes into force. Many will even simply walk up to the turnstiles on the day of the game and therefore will have to pay full price.

Using our examples combined, it’ll be £85 (that’s a £50 difference) for a family of two adults and three children. How many folk in Durham and Yorkshire will be happy paying that? Just to get in. That’s before travel, food, drink and merchandise.

I’m actually beginning to think the organisers are now admitting they won’t get anywhere near filling the grounds and are employing the vilest profiteering tactics to force through some sort of balance to their accounts. After the early offer they’re hiking adult prices by 250%. That’s insane.

However when you think that a ground that holds 20,000 would return £150k if it was 50% full of adults and 50% full of children all buying early bird tickets. If only 10,000 turn up, but 5,000 adults paid full whack (and 5,000 kids attended), the ground would be half full (or half empty depending whichever agenda you want to use) yet their gate receipts would be worth £200k.

Ask yourself which one the organisers truly prefer?

Then consider that ever since day 1 of T20 people have suggested that cheaper tickets would be the best way to getting bums on seats.

If the organisers TRULY want to grow the game and that is their ultimate aim, they could charge a tenner for adults and a fiver for kids full stop. No early bird, no late fees, no booking fees. But of course that can’t happen because they’ve created this f***ing massive white elephant and wasted millions of pounds in the process and they MUST somehow save face.

If it goes tits up in the next few years, the people responsible for this complete and utter misappropriation of funds MUST be jailed.

I fear we’re very close now to Allen Stanford territory.


Which is what we have/had with all along with the T20 Blast



Which is where the Blast has been before and many said should ALWAYS be.



Which will only happen as a result of the direct sabotage tactics currently being employed by FTECB.

I think the debate needs to move on, at least it does for me mate, we know the blast worked ,we also know that was the preferred choice of most people on this thread and traditional county cricket fans and it should have and could have have been marketed better with the same world class stars.

However the ship has sailed and ‘The Hundred’ is happening no matter what you or I think.

I agree totally the prices should be kept low, as the whole point for me which I have stated many times is to increase participation and interest among the much needed new people, therefore to do that can only repeat they have to make it affordable to them new undecided people, otherwise if them new people find it unaffordable it defeats the whole point for me.

Like I say we have now reached the point despite any objections that it is going to happen, we have a competition that is geared to get more people into the game, and despite seeing your point and other county cricket fans, I still struggle how most cricket fans would not want these new people and more participation in the game.

I notice on the Durham cricket league thread that they was talk of teams fielding kids just to get a second team out becuase participation has dropped massively and some local clubs are a shadow of thier former self, I know that is the case at Horden, and personally find that sad.

If ‘ The Hundred’ achieves its objective of getting more people into the game, and more people playing cricket for their local club, surely that is a good thing.

It’s a tall order but it’s worth a try,

I personally am looking forward to the completion and watching World stars alongside brilliant young players like Banton, and I also notice that in both the IPL and ‘ The Hundred’ that first draft pick and most expensive pick were bowlers, so again this assumption that it’s just about sloggers and batsman is not the case imo.

I know we have disagreed on this subject many times in the past, however I genuinely think the success of ‘ The Hundred’ can be good for cricket in this country.
However that will only happen if enough people want it to be a success and sadly from my point of view not sure if that is the case!

 

[chunkyshanhawk53]

Or perhaps simply those who are realistic.

Remember that their target audience is the ‘uninitiated’ non-followers of cricket. So bearing in mind those early bird prices expire before the cricket season begins, the vast majority of newcomers and casual fans will only be buying tickets when the full price comes into force. Many will even simply walk up to the turnstiles on the day of the game and therefore will have to pay full price.

Using our examples combined, it’ll be £85 (that’s a £50 difference) for a family of two adults and three children. How many folk in Durham and Yorkshire will be happy paying that? Just to get in. That’s before travel, food, drink and merchandise.

I’m actually beginning to think the organisers are now admitting they won’t get anywhere near filling the grounds and are employing the vilest profiteering tactics to force through some sort of balance to their accounts. After the early offer they’re hiking adult prices by 250%. That’s insane.

However when you think that a ground that holds 20,000 would return £150k if it was 50% full of adults and 50% full of children all buying early bird tickets. If only 10,000 turn up, but 5,000 adults paid full whack (and 5,000 kids attended), the ground would be half full (or half empty depending whichever agenda you want to use) yet their gate receipts would be worth £200k.

Ask yourself which one the organisers truly prefer?

Then consider that ever since day 1 of T20 people have suggested that cheaper tickets would be the best way to getting bums on seats.

If the organisers TRULY want to grow the game and that is their ultimate aim, they could charge a tenner for adults and a fiver for kids full stop. No early bird, no late fees, no booking fees. But of course that can’t happen because they’ve created this f***ing massive white elephant and wasted millions of pounds in the process and they MUST somehow save face.

If it goes tits up in the next few years, the people responsible for this complete and utter misappropriation of funds MUST be jailed.

I fear we’re very close now to Allen Stanford territory.


Which is what we have/had with all along with the T20 Blast



Which is where the Blast has been before and many said should ALWAYS be.



Which will only happen as a result of the direct sabotage tactics currently being employed by FTECB.

Jailed? You destroy your argument with such exaggeration

 

[brandon]

Jailed? You destroy your argument with such exaggeration

Don’t be so naive.

If someone makes decisions that directly causes tens if not hundreds of millions of pounds of someone else’s money to end up down the drain - what do you think should be the punishment?

People are jailed for much much less in a business/professional sense.

 

[chunkyshanhawk53]

Don’t be so naive.

If someone makes decisions that directly causes tens if not hundreds of millions of pounds of someone else’s money to end up down the drain - what do you think should be the punishment?

People are jailed for much much less in a business/professional sense.

I don’t like you understand at all. Is Fred Goodwin in jail? Is Adam Applegarth?

Allen Stanford ran a ponzi scheme.

 

[brandon]

I don’t like you understand at all. Is Fred Goodwin in jail? Is Adam Applegarth?

Allen Stanford ran a ponzi scheme.

In English?

You mention those two crooks as some kind of benchmark, but you’ve missed the point. The argument wasn’t ARE THEY in jail? It was SHOULD THEY be in jail?

The simple answer is yes.

If their malpractice and/or neglect leads to bankruptcy of an establishment or company which as a result causes people to lose jobs, finances, security, etc and therefore results in hardship/physical or mental damage, then tell me, why shouldn’t they face criminal charges?

If I go to work tomorrow and don’t do my job properly people could be killed, I’d end up in court and could face possible jail time. Why should those responsible for The Hundred not face similar scrutiny if it fails?

You completely missed the point regarding Stanford too, by the way.

 

[TheRey]

This is going to fail massively, and when it does, I can't wait to see that smug c*nt Grave squirm.

Fuck the Hundred and all who sail in her.

 

[Mainze]

If you’re happy to pay £35 for a game of bastardised county cricket you’re welcome to it.

Hilarious looking at the cost of tickets for the women’s competition too. £18 for adults. Good luck.

I'll probably have a look down to Leeds for a game. Don't mind a beer or two watching the best players in the world and then a night out in Leeds afterwards, I will just add it to my summer cricket roster

If it fails miserably I won't cry my eyes out, it doesn't pay my bills, life goes on.

This is going to fail massively, and when it does, I can't wait to see that smug c*nt Grave squirm.

Fuck the Hundred and all who sail in her.

Tbf its already generated a guaranteed £1 billion in revenue from the TV money, its not going to be a 'massive failure' regardless of whether or not the public buy into it long term.

 

[chunkyshanhawk53]

In English?

You mention those two crooks as some kind of benchmark, but you’ve missed the point. The argument wasn’t ARE THEY in jail? It was SHOULD THEY be in jail?

The simple answer is yes.

If their malpractice and/or neglect leads to bankruptcy of an establishment or company which as a result causes people to lose jobs, finances, security, etc and therefore results in hardship/physical or mental damage, then tell me, why shouldn’t they face criminal charges?

If I go to work tomorrow and don’t do my job properly people could be killed, I’d end up in court and could face possible jail time. Why should those responsible for The Hundred not face similar scrutiny if it fails?

You completely missed the point regarding Stanford too, by the way.

It was a simple typo

it’s an absolutely bizarre rant, comparing death with a cricket tournament.

crack on

 

[brandon]

It was a simple typo

it’s an absolutely bizarre rant, comparing death with a cricket tournament.

crack on

It wasn’t so simple because it wasn’t clear whether you were making a statement or asking a question.

Is that all you’ve got in response though? To basically try and make me out to be a bit of a crank?

Clearly don’t know much about employment law or professional accountability do you? Perhaps you should do a bit of research on the term ‘gross mismanagement of funds’ or similarly have a look at ‘Corporate malfeasance’ - especially the bit about the issuing of false financial reports because when you do, you’ll suddenly realise there’s a decent case against it already.

Again, if I go to work tomorrow and make mistakes which lead to people’s deaths I’ll be up in court.

So I look forward to hearing how you think those involved with running cricket should be any different if they too make similar mistakes that lead to similar catastrophes. Granted, the Hundred is unlikely to kill anyone, but we’ve already seen mentioned the fact that BILLIONS of pounds are at stake.

 

[chunkyshanhawk53]

It wasn’t so simple because it wasn’t clear whether you were making a statement or asking a question.

Is that all you’ve got in response though? To basically try and make me out to be a bit of a crank?

Clearly don’t know much about employment law or professional accountability do you? Perhaps you should do a bit of research on the term ‘gross mismanagement of funds’ or similarly have a look at ‘Corporate malfeasance’ - especially the bit about the issuing of false financial reports because when you do, you’ll suddenly realise there’s a decent case against it already.

Again, if I go to work tomorrow and make mistakes which lead to people’s deaths I’ll be up in court.

So I look forward to hearing how you think those involved with running cricket should be any different if they too make similar mistakes that lead to similar catastrophes. Granted, the Hundred is unlikely to kill anyone, but we’ve already seen mentioned the fact that BILLIONS of pounds are at stake.

Given I am a company director you would be wrong with that assumption

you’re comparing apples with bananas

 

[GordonMuchallNo1Fan]

@brandon spot on here

 

[brandon]

Given I am a company director you would be wrong with that assumption

you’re comparing apples with bananas

It isn’t an assumption, there’s plenty of evidence of it having happened.

Financial mismanagement is financial mismanagement mate - not sure what kind of apples and bananas you’ve been eating.

I’d expect any company director to be well aware of that mind.

 

[mackembhoy]

I think people would prefer to pay a fair price to watch world class stars playing exciting close games in the middle of the summer, than mediocre county journeyman in the county game!

Especially new people and kids attracted to the game, without any connection with a county just my opinion like.


I am glad they have slashed the prices, becuase they can’t have it both ways, if they want to attract new people and families to the game, have to make it affordable.

More than half of each team is still county players. Zero indian superstars. Most of the aussies are gonna have to pull out as well

It's basically the blast with a few more overseas players.

 

[The Breen Machine]

I'm sorry but I don't buy this whole notion of this format being littered with "World class stars" as opposed to being bogged down with "Mediocre county journeymen"

Genuine world class cricketers participating in The Hundred
Joe Root
Rashid Khan
Jofra Archer
David Warner
Ben Stokes
Mitchell Starc
Steve Smith
Kane Williamson

Genuine T20 journeymen participating in The Hundred
D'Arcy Short
Alex Hales
Harry Gurney
Luke Wright
Andre Russell
Tymal Mills
Chris Jordan
Aaron Finch
Chris Lynn
Adil Rashid
Sunil Narine
Imran Tahir
Dan Christian
Glenn Maxwell
Eoin Morgan
Mohammad Nabi

Mediocre County Journeyman participating in The Hundred
David Wiese
Nathan Rimmington
John Simpson
Ravi Rampaul
Danny Briggs
Leus Du Plooy
David Payne
Chris Wood
Laurie Evans
Nathan Sowter
Alex Blake
Hardus Viljoen
Marchant De Lange
Wayne Madsen
Jade Dernbach
Luis Reece
Riki Wessels
Chris Cooke
Benny Howell

I've been generous and left out a few there. I've also not included a number of Kolpaks and failed England players.

Don't even get me started on the Local Icon bollocks.

 

[GordonMuchallNo1Fan]

Scheduling clash could prevent Australians from playing the entire Hundred

 

[The Breen Machine]

Scheduling clash could prevent Australians from playing the entire Hundred

Let me revise my genuine world class cricketers list

 

[Struts]

More than half of each team is still county players. Zero indian superstars. Most of the aussies are gonna have to pull out as well

It's basically the blast with a few more overseas players.

Not many West Indians playing many games either with it being so close to the start of the CPL.