Was Shilton Any Good?

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fatha said:
Tailed off points wise then from February onwards Sunderland were second in the form table only to the eventual European champions Liverpool-sad to say I had to wait for reidys team before I saw anything remotely as entertaining as those few months again.
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2nd in the form table :rolleyes:
 
hullmackem said:
Just about to post this, he nearly gets to every one. He may have been at the end of his career in 1990 but was our best keeper and one of the best around still.
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He went the right way because the ball was on its way past him before he moved, if it had been hit down the middle he would have saved it, apart from that we were relying on a poor penalty to give us a chance
 
Wearside Wanderer II said:
He was a very good keeper. Always criticised due to his height but I can't remember him making too many glaring errors
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The height issue was because a tiny Argentinian out jumped him :lol: (granted it was with his hand like)

I remember Clough saying he shouted at Shilton because he let a ball run and it hit the post, Shilton said he didn't go for it because he didn't wanna risk a corner :lol::lol:
 
An old boss of mine who was a pro footballer (keeper as well) played with him at Leicester and I remember him telling me that Shilton was by far the most complete goalkeeper he had ever seen and was in part responsible for my boss getting a transfer to Northampton Town as he was just head and shoulders above any other keeper.

My old bosses profile here
http://www.foxestalk.co.uk/forums/page/playerdetails.php?pid=570
 
Que sera sera said:
Looking at the Italia '90 team, the weakest player was by far the keeper. Was Shilton ever any good or was he just finished by this time?
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Well, he wasn't very good when we needed him in the semi, all 5 pens put past him with ease.....

The Legendary Tongue said:
Best in the world during his time
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You on drugs, son? May I refer you to the Italia '90 semi - poor positioning / anticipation for the goal; never looked like saving any of the penalties - and you say he was best in the world????
 
Draig said:
Didn't one England manager (think it may have been Ron Greenwood) play them in alternate games because he couldn't decide who was the better keeper?
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Pretty much so from memory. Mind you in them days, 70s our keepers were believed to be the best in the world (well according to our press). These Johnny Foreigner types were suspect, flapped a lot and punched a ball rTher than hold or catch. That has changed beyond all recognition now. Hardly any British first choice keepers now.
 
THE_MAINSTAND_BAND said:
I dont know why the OP is getting so much shit. Shilton was f***ing woeful in Italia 90, our weakest link. No danger of him ever saving a penalty either.

By the way: The best keeper in the Tournament was Goicochea of Argentina who was their reserve, Pumpido (first choice) broke his leg in the first match so was replaced. Goicochea then went on to save 2 or 3 pens in 2 separate shoot outs, or at least save a couple of pens during patches as well as in a shoot out. Nowt ever came of him like for some reason.
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I don't think the OP is getting shit, everyone is just pretty much unanimous in demonstrating that Shilton was a class keeper. Shame about the gambling and philandering, but he hasn't been a stand out on those criteria in the modern (or even older) football eras.
 
Shilton in his prime was a top top player...I remember away to Romania in a group qualifier when a typical England defence of the time (four tall beanpoles including a certain ex-player manager for SAFC) were given the run around for 90 mins by Hagi who looked like a world beater...Shilton was unbelievable and the game finished 0-0. Totally underserved for England as they were garbage...but this happened in a lot of games back then...time and time again Shilton and one end and Lineker at the other would get England underserved results...plus there was a lot of respect for England back then - teams genuinely feared us and we usually had a hard core of 4 world class players who carry the team and Shilton was one of them.

"Shilts" wasn't the tallest or the most athletic of the top keepers but his positioning was faultless and his reading of the game was probably the best I've seen got him and England out of a lot of scrapes. He also nagged his defenders like no other keeper.

Clemence, Parkes and maybe even Corrigan were more gifted but I got the impression Peter worked harder than any of them to improve his game. Then was was Bailey (very decent shot stopper) and the young Villa keeper - England had lots of good keepers (very unlike today) and Shilton was top of the pile...even if he drunk like an animal.
 
Des's Tiny Child said:
Shilton in his prime was a top top player...I remember away to Romania in a group qualifier when a typical England defence of the time (four tall beanpoles including a certain ex-player manager for SAFC) were given the run around for 90 mins by Hagi who looked like a world beater...Shilton was unbelievable and the game finished 0-0. Totally underserved for England as they were garbage...but this happened in a lot of games back then...time and time again Shilton and one end and Lineker at the other would get England underserved results...plus there was a lot of respect for England back then - teams genuinely feared us and we usually had a hard core of 4 world class players who carry the team and Shilton was one of them.

"Shilts" wasn't the tallest or the most athletic of the top keepers but his positioning was faultless and his reading of the game was probably the best I've seen got him and England out of a lot of scrapes. He also nagged his defenders like no other keeper.

Clemence, Parkes and maybe even Corrigan were more gifted but I got the impression Peter worked harder than any of them to improve his game. Then was was Bailey (very decent shot stopper) and the young Villa keeper - England had lots of good keepers (very unlike today) and Shilton was top of the pile...even if he drunk like an animal.
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You've missed Turner mate, he'd probably England's number 1 if he were playing today.
 
Before I was born but in 1967 Leicester City weren't too badly off in the goalkeeping department with Gordon Banks and Peter Shilton.

Banks was recognised at the time as the best goalkeeper in the world and had just won the World Cup. Still only 29 and Leicester's goalkeeper for the last eight seasons.

Even though he was 18 Peter Shilton wasn't happy at being Bank's understudy and demanded the club either play him or sell him. Leicester decided to sell Gordon Banks and replace him with Peter Shilton. It just shows you how highly the club thought of him to open up a space for him by selling the best goalie in the world and how confident Shilton was in his own ability to demand such things at only 18 years of age.
 
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