tonyfromalnwick
Striker
I'm coming back as a big, angry wasp. Payback time !!
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I look at this way.....animals die, trees die, fish die, birds die.....do they come back in some sort of spirit, no. we're just another species made up of roughly the same material etc....we have a higher intelligence, but that doesn't make us in any way different chemically...when you die, you die. Heartbreaking when I think of loved ones who've passed away, but I've accepted the reality.
People's thoughts about their afterlife are determined by their beliefs.
I just enjoyed Pratchett's version that people get what they believe, not what they necessarily deserve etc
on the one hand it requires some fortitude to think you have been a shit all your life but will go on to elysium in those last moments
then there is the idea that whatever is in your mind when you die is eternal
personally I do not believe in an afterlife etc
we do not disappear but just change to other matter so can help a tree grow etc
and we of course live on in memory
I just enjoyed Pratchett's version that people get what they believe, not what they necessarily deserve etc
on the one hand it requires some fortitude to think you have been a shit all your life but will go on to elysium in those last moments
then there is the idea that whatever is in your mind when you die is eternal
personally I do not believe in an afterlife etc
we do not disappear but just change to other matter so can help a tree grow etc
and we of course live on in memory
Terry Pratchett had the right of it in his books. People's after lives were determined by their beliefs.
Should be by their deeds. Plenty of wrong'uns have acceptable beliefs but act in a different manner.
At death, the spirit will leave the body. The physical part of the organism ceases to function, but life and personality go on.
The individual spirit is immortal, making death not a significant worry. The spirit acquires another body necessary for growth and survival. To achieve an individual's true identity is our primary goal.
Salvation is achieved through “clearing” engrams and implant, the source of human misery, through the auditing process. Salvation is limited to the current life and there is no final salvation or damnation.
Life is a not a one-shot deal. There is only the eternal return of life after life. The individual comes back. We have a responsibility for what goes on today since we will experience it tomorrow.
there was life before 1adSo in the year 1 AD the worlds population was estimated at 200 million. Today its nearly 8 billion. Where do all these other souls come from? Can spirits end up on different planets? Dimensions? Planes of existence? Other creatures? Not taking the piss, just pointing out some questions this raises.
Hope the church gave the money back to the family - sad story.my own grandfather signed over everything he had to the church on his deathbed... never mind his 6 motherless children
there was life before 1ad
No idea mate, go to you local dianetics centre and ask them.So in the year 1 AD the worlds population was estimated at 200 million. Today its nearly 8 billion. Where do all these other souls come from? Can spirits end up on different planets? Dimensions? Planes of existence? Other creatures? Not taking the piss, just pointing out some questions this raises.
I've read a book about this called "We don't die" it's by George Anderson.
Accordng to the writer, our spirit goes to another world, where we are met by an already departed friend or family members who act as our guides in this other world.
If those who pass away had strong Christian beliefs or have faith in God, then they will enter onto a higher level in this other world.
The stronger your faith in God, the more learned you become until eventually you reach the highest level and become a guide to the newly departed.
If any family ot friends pray for you, then this also helps you to go on to another higher level.
Those who have passed away and comitted real evil in their lifetime (Hitler for example) will always stay at the very bottom level and will never go on to a higher level.
There is more but I won't comment as this could cause some people some upset.
These are NOT my views.
This is what I've read in tbe book mentioned in this post.
yes but at crunch time, when they are shifting off their mortal coil, they know the balance of it... so many death bed confesssions etc my own grandfather signed over everything he had to the church on his deathbed... never mind his 6 motherless children
Oscar Wilde turned Catholic
all that bites them in the arse when they face death