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CC :: Durham v Derbyshire

Twisted said:
we need to sign ian blackwell and we'd be a great side man.

i'd dump burnham (any excuse i know) and bring in trevaskis. clark is probably a better shout with bat but bowling will be too similar to badger. we're scoring enough runs but need an added weapon in attack. how likely is borthwick to want to bring in a front line spinner to replace himself though?
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Borthwick doesn't seem to fancy himself till its too late so possible. Aye, a rejuvenated Blackwell or Breese would be better.

Burnham has done well this season, it would be harsh to drop him. Poynter would miss out for me.
 

Unfortunately Durham just didn't have the quality to take 10 wickets on the 4th day on a type of wicket rarely seen at the Riverside. It was probably made even more unlikely as Rushy had a rare off day.
Not just because of today but after 3 matches in 3 weeks and another tough game in 4 days time The bowling attack could do with freshening up at the very least.
 
wayne entwhistle no9 said:
Unfortunately Durham just didn't have the quality to take 10 wickets on the 4th day on a type of wicket rarely seen at the Riverside. It was probably made even more unlikely as Rushy had a rare off day.
Not just because of today but after 3 matches in 3 weeks and another tough game in 4 days time The bowling attack could do with freshening up at the very least.
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Would have won that game with Carse. his extra pace would have made a difference with the softer ball trying to break stubborn partnerships. Durham have played well this year.
 
Twisted said:
you're probably right, but we won't know till we find out, and we really need to try something as this isn't working - yet it's so close. tracks re playing like the height of summer and as above - we're in positions to win every game so far this season, but if the answer is to replace borthwick with a new frontline spinner will he admit that?
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Don't mind at all replacing Borthwick spinning with a.n.other spinning ... but he's in the side for his batting. Alright only one score of note but sometime or other he will get runs and sometime or other Bedingham won't.
 
rentaghost said:
Would have won that game with Carse. his extra pace would have made a difference with the softer ball trying to break stubborn partnerships. Durham have played well this year.
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Yeah his pace and also ability to reverse swing the old ball would have been very handy. We also need to find a genuine 5th bowler playing a championship match every week with just three days break in between is to much for a 4 man pace attack.
 
Bri said:
Don't mind at all replacing Borthwick spinning with a.n.other spinning ... but he's in the side for his batting. Alright only one score of note but sometime or other he will get runs and sometime or other Bedingham won't.
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I'm not talking about replacing Borthwick I'm saying would he, as captain, be happy about bringing in someone who'd eat up alot of his overs
smoker said:
Borthwick doesn't seem to fancy himself till its too late so possible. Aye, a rejuvenated Blackwell or Breese would be better.

Burnham has done well this season, it would be harsh to drop him. Poynter would miss out for me.
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I don't know that there's too many runs between Burnham and poynter is there? Probably since that 70 odd he's gone ahead but I doubt much in it before then? And poynter is in to keep wicket, that's the argument not saying I agree with it. Don't think either are really good enough with the bat, I'd happily replace them both tbf with trev and Clark and exk keeps, giving us a whopping 3 spinners :eek::eek:
 
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Twisted said:
I'm not talking about replacing Borthwick I'm saying would he, as captain, be happy about bringing in someone who'd eat up alot of his overs


I don't know that there's too many runs between Burnham and poynter is there? Probably since that 70 odd he's gone ahead but I doubt much in it before then? And poynter is in to keep wicket, that's the argument not saying I agree with it. Don't think either are really good enough with the bat, I'd happily replace them both tbf with trev and Clark and exk keeps, giving us a whopping 3 spinners :eek::eek:
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Believe it or not Burnham is our second highest run scorer this season. Clark has always struggled to step up to the red ball team for some reason, although I admit he's in terrific form for the seconds. Burnham can also bowl medium pace, bowled quite a bit for his club teams.

I don't think we need to pick Poynter. Eckersely's batting average with the gloves is good, he's a good keeper and Bedingham is a useful emergency replacement.
Twisted said:
I'm not talking about replacing Borthwick I'm saying would he, as captain, be happy about bringing in someone who'd eat up alot of his overs


I don't know that there's too many runs between Burnham and poynter is there? Probably since that 70 odd he's gone ahead but I doubt much in it before then? And poynter is in to keep wicket, that's the argument not saying I agree with it. Don't think either are really good enough with the bat, I'd happily replace them both tbf with trev and Clark and exk keeps, giving us a whopping 3 spinners :eek::eek:
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Burnham average 25.93, Poynter 22.71. Not a lot in it, but I think JB is in better form atm.
 
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smoker said:
Believe it or not Burnham is our second highest run scorer this season. Clark has always struggled to step up to the red ball team for some reason, although I admit he's in terrific form for the seconds. Burnham can also bowl medium pace, bowled quite a bit for his club teams.

I don't think we need to pick Poynter. Eckersely's batting average with the gloves is good, he's a good keeper and Bedingham is a useful emergency replacement.


Burnham average 25.93, Poynter 22.71. Not a lot in it, but I think JB is in better form atm.
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Burnham is a different class ability wise to Poynter IMO. His average is lower than it should be down to a lack of focus in the past but I think hes turning a corner. He looked very good in the last 2 games
 
rentaghost said:
Burnham is a different class ability wise to Poynter IMO. His average is lower than it should be down to a lack of focus in the past but I think hes turning a corner. He looked very good in the last 2 games
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Agree. Looks like he's sorted out his tendency to play rash shots, much more patient and considered this season.
 
Pffft not sure what to make of that. It's evident we're playing some good cricket, but also evident we are struggling to get over the line. Now for me it's one of 2 things.... lack of ability or a mentality thing given we rarely win and I honestly can't remember the last time we won a county game.

Overall encouraged this season.

Quite bizarre today how we couldn't attend the cricket, I went to Seaham car boot sale... absolutely chocka!! strange rules
 
GordonMuchallNo1Fan said:
Pffft not sure what to make of that. It's evident we're playing some good cricket, but also evident we are struggling to get over the line. Now for me it's one of 2 things.... lack of ability or a mentality thing given we rarely win and I honestly can't remember the last time we won a county game.

Overall encouraged this season.

Quite bizarre today how we couldn't attend the cricket, I went to Seaham car boot sale... absolutely chocka!! strange rules
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Its hard for us to take 20 wickets often with our bowling attack. Carse is the only one that I think has the pace and the ability to reverse the soft ball and we don't have a quality spinner. They are playing some good cricket tho as you say which is good to see.
 
wayne entwhistle no9 said:
We also need to find a genuine 5th bowler playing a championship match every week with just three days break in between is to much for a 4 man pace attack.
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5 bowlers in the starting xi is something I've been saying from day one... We really need a dobber in the middle order or have enough faith in our top/middle order that we can play 5 bowlers 7-11.

Every match so far we've scored enough runs but not had the wicket takers (yes I include Essex match) so back our batsmen and bring an extra bowler in. Especially when bancroft comes in for young
 
Just listened to the coach Franklin post match interview said the normal things you would expect including that part of the review will be looking at the wicket for this match and will it be the norm for this season and what type of attack would be best suited for taking 20 wickets if that is the case.
 
wayne entwhistle no9 said:
Just listened to the coach Franklin post match interview said the normal things you would expect including that part of the review will be looking at the wicket for this match and will it be the norm for this season and what type of attack would be best suited for taking 20 wickets if that is the case.
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Second spinner.

It'll be Thomson 😭
 
wayne entwhistle no9 said:
Just listened to the coach Franklin post match interview said the normal things you would expect including that part of the review will be looking at the wicket for this match and will it be the norm for this season and what type of attack would be best suited for taking 20 wickets if that is the case.
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It's disappointing that it took them three matches to figure out the driest spring on record and the new heavy roller rule would result in flat, dry wickets that give limited reward to seamers. Especially after we lost 12 wickets to spin in Chelmsford! In fact we should have had the extra spinner in at Chelmsford as any idiot knew how that wicket would play with Harmer in the team and the weather forecast.

No point having a post mortem about it now as the weather is about to turn wet again in May.
 
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