Proof of the after life

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DaveH said:
Poor edit. As a proof, how about the laws of thermodynamics? Energy can not be created or destroyed only converted from one form to another. My brain is currently using electrical energy which it has obtained by digesting my breakfast. Same as the movement of my fingers. It has all been fuelled in some way.

Ghosts/spirits/afterlife are not consuming energy, therefore they can not expend it. As well as not having a physical brain, any afterlife must live in a zero energy state, which makes all thought and movement impossible. Here is a proof it can’t exist but no proof has ever been given that can explain how ghosts can exist in our physical universe.
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Ghosts are simply other people from other universes when multiverses occasionally overlap.
 


dangermows said:
Ghosts are simply other people from other universes when multiverses occasionally overlap.
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Now your just spouting bollocks, ha'way man. If your going to make absurd claims you need to back it up otherwise people wont take you serious anymore and stop debating with you.
 
DaveH said:
Poor edit. As a proof, how about the laws of thermodynamics? Energy can not be created or destroyed only converted from one form to another. My brain is currently using electrical energy which it has obtained by digesting my breakfast. Same as the movement of my fingers. It has all been fuelled in some way.

Ghosts/spirits/afterlife are not consuming energy, therefore they can not expend it. As well as not having a physical brain, any afterlife must live in a zero energy state, which makes all thought and movement impossible. Here is a proof it can’t exist but no proof has ever been given that can explain how ghosts can exist in our physical universe.
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To be fair, all of the energy in the Universe originated at the big bang, which came from nothing, so our conservation laws mean fuckall. Energy CAN come from nothing. Our existence proves that.
 
bigmarlon said:
To be fair, all of the energy in the Universe originated at the big bang, which came from nothing, so our conservation laws mean fuckall. Energy CAN come from nothing. Our existence proves that.
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It doesn't prove it as the big bag hasn't been proven to my knowledge.
 
niceonemarra said:
It doesn't prove it as the big bag hasn't been proven to my knowledge.
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It kind of has by the Cosmic Microwave Background, but we don't know the origin. It's clear that everything was a lot closer together 14 billion years ago, which hints at a big bang. Whether that's proof or not is upto you to decide.

Either way, there has to be a beginning of everything. That beginning is where energy originated. Before that beginning there was nothing. So energy came from nothing. It directly contradicts our conservation laws.
 
dangermows said:
This.
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Of course nobody can prove it doesn't exist. How can one prove anything doesn't exist?

But it's perfectly reasonable to be sceptical. There is absolutely no evidence and the idea goes against orettt much every scientific principle I can think of. So it is not unreasonable to demand a solid amount of good quality, repeatable evidence.

Since there is none it is reasonable to assume the default position of fanciful poppycock.

bigmarlon said:
It kind of has by the Cosmic Microwave Background, but we don't know the origin. It's clear that everything was a lot closer together 14 billion years ago, which hints at a big bang. Whether that's proof or not is upto you to decide.

Either way, there has to be a beginning of everything. That beginning is where energy originated. Before that beginning there was nothing. So energy came from nothing. It directly contradicts our conservation laws.
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Our conservation laws for how the universe is now, not necessarily at the point of The Big Bang or even "before" it, if such a term is appropriate.
 
Kent_Mackem said:
Of course nobody can prove it doesn't exist. How can one prove anything doesn't exist?

But it's perfectly reasonable to be sceptical. There is absolutely no evidence and the idea goes against orettt much every scientific principle I can think of. So it is not unreasonable to demand a solid amount of good quality, repeatable evidence.

Since there is none it is reasonable to assume the default position of fanciful poppycock.


Our conservation laws for how the universe is now, not necessarily at the point of The Big Bang or even "before" it, if such a term is appropriate.
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I know, I was just offering a counter-argument to DaveH's comment for fairness.
 
Unbalanced Views said:
Really ? and that's sufficient proof in your mind ? Can you point to one example where the past life supposedly lived can be pinned to actual fact as apposed to my view of it being 100% bollox ?
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It would appear that unless you're prepared to entertain the wildest theories, without any evidence, you're not open minded ;)
 
dangermows said:
You're
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Nope its been passed as your as your not worth correcting typing errors. I don't make the rules mate but pressing the shift key on my keyboard whilst pressing the ' key would seem like to much effort when replying to you as you have said you fly around outside your body then cant back up your claim so you started talking crap tbf.
 
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