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Not as much as you don't want them to be muslims.Do you want them to be Muslims?
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Not as much as you don't want them to be muslims.Do you want them to be Muslims?
I've said I don't know if they were practicing, but it's safe to assume they are from a Muslim background.
If they came out as atheists it would render my theory void.
A controversial statement when you know the age of mo's bride and his command to take women as your right hand possessions.But Islam doesn't say it's okay to abuse kids
No, I'm not suggesting that.Are you suggesting if there were some who didn't believe in Allah they'd not have did what they did?
In the Rochdale case, one of the young lasses was pimping her mates out. These gangs could influence people.Also, in the Rotherham case there were two white women involved, and I don't think they were Muslims.
A controversial statement when you know the age of mo's bride and his command to take women as your right hand possessions.
It is possible there is a link.
Anyway, I'm getting Rotherham mixed up with Rochdale, which the op is about. The delivery driver in the program was clearly a practicing muslim.
No, I'm not suggesting that.
A controversial statement when you know the age of mo's bride and his command to take women as your right hand possessions.
It is possible there is a link.
Well you did spend the first part of today most concerned that it's the white gangs who exploit the really young kids whilst arguing that 'muslims' go after kids of the age that Adam Johnson was attracted grooming. You were most adamant about this. If they were following the orders of their prophet regarding 9yr olds then shirly this would be the other way round? I suspect you're taking bollocks.
Not as much as you don't want them to be muslims.
I think it's a fair assumption based on press reports and the far larger Muslim populationYou can't say that they were Muslims because you don't know. Having glanced at their ethnicity, you've drawn a conclusion about them as a group based on that and that alone. I'd say you've quite a racist attitude by the sounds of it. Why are you racist?
Many young girls became victims of this sexual abuse because they were also victims of the social backgrounds they were brought up in. Chaotic and unstable backgrounds caused by factors such as deprivation, lack of education and family breakdown, social division and neglect, lack of positive role models, etc.Sorry I didn't mean to imply that, there absolutely was that complacency and I 100% agree with your post. Those people - police, social services - took the piss on the public purse. Can't tell you how angry it makes me. My point about Afzal was that he called this out for what it was, and also blamed parts of the Muslim community too.
I think it's a fair assumption based on press reports and the far larger Muslim population
Well said.I don't think it's fair to assume anything if the result means an entire faith is tarnished as a consequence. I've said it before in here to much derision but the one thing that tied them all together wasnt race or religion it was the fact they worked in the night time economy. That's just the facts.
I suppose my point is that no one is deriding every taxi driver, pizza deliverer or fast food shop worker and rightly not. These were individuals who associated together, the reason why is largely irrelevant, the way they behaved is what should be focused on.
And this. Gang rape in Pakistan is not religion based, it's honour based - using an honour culture to justify the unjustifiable. The absurd logical conclusion of 'she was asking for it'.I stand by my opinion it is a race thing not a religious thing (although I also concede not every girl was "white British" so that's not a water tight view either).
Well you did spend the first part of today most concerned that it's the white gangs who exploit the really young kids whilst arguing that 'muslims' go after kids of the age that Adam Johnson was attracted into grooming. You were most adamant about this. If they were following the orders of their prophet regarding 9yr olds then shirly this would be the other way round? I suspect you're talking bollocks.
Only a complete bellend would think it was racist to assume someone of Pakistani heritage is likely to be Muslim.You can't say that they were Muslims because you don't know. Having glanced at their ethnicity, you've drawn a conclusion about them as a group based on that and that alone. I'd say you've quite a racist attitude by the sounds of it. Why are you racist?
Well, given they aren't actually paedophiles I wouldn't expect them to go after 9 year olds, but the fact the prophet did have a child bride may make older children acceptable to them.
That said, I suspect if there is a link to religion, it is more likely it is looking down on the kuffur and treating women as right hand possessions.
I do feel that there’s a deficit of leadership in some parts of the Muslim community. They could be much more challenging of certain behaviours". He attributed the attacks to "evil men", saying that the key driver was "male power
It is a good watch for all the wrong reasons.if this thread's owt to gan by mate it sounds like a grim but canny wetch that'll stimulate some discussion between me and the nephew there. will catch it on the old iplayer
Eh. Of course they need to test the baby to find out the father or am I misunderstanding your question?One thing I didn't understand. Why did they need to do a dna test on the foetus when two of the girls had baby's. Surely they could have done dna tests on them to determine the father.
They never mentioned doing tests on the babies as evidence. It was all about getting dna from the foetus.Eh. Of course they need to test the baby to find out the father or am I misunderstanding your question?
I'm not qualified to do so, but nee chance I could be a defence lawyer. None.