wayne rooney greatest england goalscorer in history?

[Jack Blue]

after he scores two more, he is above bobby charlton.

should he be ranked the greatest ever for england?

I'm not sure how many goals Bobby Charlton scored against San Marino, Malta, Liechtenstein and Luxembourg mind.

Nah, Rooneys not the greatest ever......top 5 max for me.

 

[Deleted member 26]

No! wasnt Charlton a midfielder?..I wonder if they could segregate the goals out so only ones scored in qualification and tournaments not meaningless friendlies against pub teams........Stats are stats and he deserves the accolode the numbers imbue but he aint the greatest in my book! Charlton as a midfielder fekkin brillient but in my mind Jimmy Greaves was the best goalscorer for england and in this case the numbers do lie!

tbf Rooney hasn't always played as a striker and the International teams in the 50's and 60's could be a mixed bag. I remember England hammering Turkey by a cricket score in the 80's, never happen now.

 

[the streaker]

spot on, people forget how good he was.

Fastest thing off the mark I have ever seen on a football pitch during that WC and then the first game of the next season where he destroyed the scum...............

 

[Boz33]

Greaves shearer then lineker. No doubt that Rooney will get the record but the other 3 u always thought were dangerous when playing. Rooney seems to get his spot as we have nothing better.Owen just misses out due to catologue of injuries screwing his career

 

[the streaker]

I'm not sure how many goals Bobby Charlton scored against San Marino, Malta, Liechtenstein and Luxembourg mind.

Nah, Rooneys not the greatest ever......top 5 max for me.

Actually Charlton scored loads in meaningless friendlies against crap opposition as we played less competitive games then..........

You can argue the point both ways its just football has changed ............

Greaves shearer then lineker. No doubt that Rooney will get the record but the other 3 u always thought were dangerous when playing. Rooney seems to get his spot as we have nothing better.

Michael Owen..............

 

[oddbod]

This is from last year so Rooney has scored at least 2 more in competitive games.

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Great info but for completeness can we have goals per game ..this may hightlight Greaves as the best ?

 

[Dogbark]

Not the greatest ever, no, but I think it's about time people acknowledged what he has done for England in a poor England team over the years.

He's been partially the reason that the team has been poor on a fair few occasions.

 

[safcforever]

after he scores two more, he is above bobby charlton.

should he be ranked the greatest ever for england?

Yes if he breaks a record does he deserve it ffs

 

[the streaker]

Great info but for completeness can we have goals per game ..this may hightlight Greaves as the best ?

In total it is 44 in 57...........

 

[viccarlton]

Stats don't lie, so why don't I feel like Rooney is a legendary England striker?

 

[AFCSR6]

Stats don't lie, so why don't I feel like Rooney is a legendary England striker?

Because people love to hate modern day English footballers (unless they play for the team you support)

 

[safcforever]

You have to take into account the opposition scored against. I imagine a lot of Rooneys goals are against absolutely pap opposition.

All strikers get the chance against shit opposition.

 

[shogun1904]

All strikers get the chance against shit opposition.

Aye, suppose so. It would take some time to anaylse all the goals and opposition etc. If Rooney is the greatest English goalscorer ever though that is disapointing.

 

[Black Cat Gypsy]

lineker had games similar to rooney

Gary Lineker
1 26 March 1985 Republic of Ireland 2–1 Friendly 1
2, 3 16 June 1985 United States 5–0 Friendly 2
4, 5, 6 16 October 1985 Turkey 5–0 1986 World Cup qualifier 3
7, 8, 9 11 June 1986 Poland 3–0 1986 World Cup 3
10, 11 18 June 1986 Paraguay 3–0 1986 World Cup 2
12 22 June 1986 Argentina 1–2 1986 World Cup 1
13, 14 15 October 1986 Northern Ireland 3–0 Euro 1988 qualifier 2
15, 16, 17, 18 18 February 1987 Spain 4–2 Friendly 4
19 19 May 1987 Brazil 1–1 Friendly (Rous Cup) 1
20 9 September 1987 West Germany 1–3 Friendly 1
21, 22, 23 14 October 1987 Turkey 8–0 Euro 1988 qualifier 3
24 24 May 1988 Colombia 1–1 Friendly (Rous Cup) 1
25 23 March 1988 Netherlands 2–2 Friendly 1
26 28 May 1988 Switzerland 1–0 Friendly 1
27 26 April 1989 Albania 5–0 1990 World Cup qualifier 1
28 3 June 1989 Poland 3–0 1990 World Cup qualifier 1
29 7 July 1989 Denmark 1–1 Friendly 1
30 28 March 1990 Brazil 1–0 Friendly 1
31 15 May 1990 Denmark 1–0 Friendly 1
32 11 June 1990 Republic of Ireland 1–1 1990 World Cup 1
33, 34 1 July 1990 Cameroon 3–2 1990 World Cup 2
35 4 July 1990 West Germany 1 – 1p 1990 World Cup 1
36 22 September 1990 Hungary 1–0 Friendly 1
37 17 October 1990 Poland 2–0 Euro 1992 qualifier 1
38, 39 6 February 1991 Cameroon 2–0 Friendly 2
40 26 July 1991 Argentina 2–2 Friendly (England Challenge Cup) 1
41 3 June 1991 New Zealand 1–0 Friendly 1
42, 43, 44, 45 12 June 1991 Malaysia 4–2 Friendly 4
46 13 November 1991 Poland 1–1 Euro 1992 qualifier 1
47 19 February 1992 France 2–0 Friendly 1
48 29 April 1992 Moscow CIS 2–2

 

[Boz33]

Because people love to hate modern day English footballers (unless they play for the team you support)

Meh not strictly true, I hate weetabix heed and Owen but for England they were immense players

 

[the streaker]

tbf Rooney hasn't always played as a striker and the International teams in the 50's and 60's could be a mixed bag. I remember England hammering Turkey by a cricket score in the 80's, never happen now.

8-0 away I think ........Bryan Robson scored a hat trick..........

 

[Dogbark]

Stats don't lie, so why don't I feel like Rooney is a legendary England striker?

Because he hasn't turned up to a tournament since 2004.

 

[AFCSR6]

Meh not strictly true, I hate weetabix heed and Owen but for England they were immense players

Do you think the same of Rooney?

 

[viccarlton]

Because people love to hate modern day English footballers (unless they play for the team you support)

You may have a point, personally I think it's because in the modern day we're constantly bombarded with how great and brilliant everything in football is (overhyped) therefore people have a tendency to dismiss facts and figures and to a degree rail against what we're constantly fed, but as I said stats don't lie.

 

[Boz33]

Do you think the same of Rooney?

Yeh rooneys a definite gonk too haha, Altho he's been an average player for seasons now. If he played for a less fashionable team than Man U, there'd be a lot more question marks over him

You may have a point, personally I think it's because in the modern day we're constantly bombarded with how great and brilliant everything in football is (overhyped) therefore people have a tendency to dismiss facts and figures and to a degree rail against what we're constantly fed, but as I said stats don't lie.

Plus in times gone by players weren't such wankers, they were far more in touch with normal life, the new generations are on another planet to the rest of the world and act accordingly