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White supremacists matching in Virginia

Discussion in 'SMB' started by hexhamali, Aug 12, 2017.

  1. Sorry, did you just say that if black people in the South don't like widespread support for slavery and segregation they should leave? Their homes?
     
  2. It's not like the Americans to get involved/ offended about something thousands of miles away at the demand of the left :lol:
     
  3. GK

    GK Striker

    It looks to me like the nazis are offended at something or other. They killed someone over it. You're bizarrely trying to defend them by deflecting the conversation to, erm, India.

    You're trying to defend nazis. Honestly, have a sit down and think of the implications of that.
     
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  4. I'm enjoying watching you make shit up :lol:
    It's like arguing with our lass (daren't.)
    "Yeah, but four uears ago when it was raining you didn't... blah blah blah."
     
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  5. Hillary Clinton and former KKK member Robert Byrd (a man she called her "friend and mentor"):

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  6. That happens here too mate it's just over the last decade the veil has slipped. People have exchanged the polished, edited, and produced news media for raw as it happens live from the ground media by the people. Whenever something kicks off you'll almost always be able to find a live feed online and this has resulted in people turning away from what constructed their world view to forming their own opinions.

    There are those in America who fund all sorts of groups to stir up hate and division. Americans are increasingly disillusioned with how they get their news and it's resulted in fringe groups being brought the fore, every attempt by the current establishment media to regain control of the narrative has divided the people further and further. People are genuinely fed up with being told what to think, say , and how to act. This is the result of that in my opinion and that's been going on since well before Trump.
     
  7. GK

    GK Striker

    Another irrelevant deflection. And no denial.
     
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  8. When it's raining you should always be going downtown. You deserve all the stick ye get!
     
  9. GK

    GK Striker

    Whataboutism at its finest. Now's a good time to say, "but but but whatabout that time a far left fella drove a car into a crowd of people". Like it matters.

    But but but what about india. But but but what about eastern europe. But but but what about Hilary. But but but what about bernie.

    The far right element on this board are a weird weird bunch.
     
  10. The King of Um

    The King of Um Midfield

    Yeah, but this scenario is the exact opposite of that one. The people in the city - which is only 20% black, btw - have voted to have the statue moved. The protesters are people coming in from outside to tell them they're not able to democratically decide what to have in their own city.
     
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  11. It doesn't, all that matters is bringing tensions down. Putting your chips behind either side isn't going to do that.
     
  12. supermackem123

    supermackem123 Midfield

    No, you've just made that up. You said, there are alot of black people in the South and they might find this statue offensive, I concede that point, so I suggested, if they're offended (reiterate 'IF') they can choose to leave or simply ignore it. They don't have to of course, it's just some options.

    Please dont twist my words mate to hint at racism, you're totally out of order to say that.

    You've twice ignored my point about other offensive statues, which have offended people, yet still remain. Taking it down, will ignite a huge flame, dont you think it's easier to leave it up? Some people see the statue as a hero, who fought for their rights (slavery) and fought bravely to conserve their beliefs, others, see it as a vile man who saw black people as inferior and as a profitable business - It's all about personal interpretation.
     
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  13. No I think you need to walk me through this. Your argument is that black people choose to live in the South, so if they don't like the way large portion of the white population of the south support General Lee and the confederacy, they should either put up with it or leave. So what you're saying is the attitudes in the South to the US civil war take precedence over the attitudes of black people who live in the south. What's your reasoning for thinking that?
     
  14. i ain't going to call you a nutter, you may well be right, what i am looking for is for trump to put into actions what he said, so its over to him as far as i am concerned.. i agree with you on most of this post. so lets see what happens
     
  15. GK

    GK Striker

    How dare democracy impinge on the rights of these folk fighting for white equality.
     
  16. So they did find it offensive, they chose option 3, remove it.
     
  17. supermackem123

    supermackem123 Midfield

    I will, but it's really quite straightforward. Although you've put it bluntly, yes, thats my point although not as black and white (Excuse the pun!) as "Put up or shut up". I don't think, a statue of a military general is offensive. If people perceive it as that, then thats unfortunate but thats their interpretation. Just to clarity, I have black family members, any form of racism is disgusting. If you're getting into a debate about the Civil War and general attitudes of black people, I'm happy to engage with you but we're going off topic. I'm not referring to the years of slavery, poor men and women went through, being used as bargaining chips, that is fundamentally wrong and I'm pleased the North won the war for the sake of humanity, I'm referring to this statue incident in particular, just incase you try and twist my words again.

    Statues really, are simply shrines to a particular person (good or bad) of significant importance for that time, it's hardly a defamatory gesture. Like @Stevie Freestein II correctly pointed out, I can hardly imagine the muslim population are particularly keen on the Richard the Lionheart statue, considering he marched an army thousands of miles, to conqueror and annihilate muslims in the name of Christianity, should that be taken down?

    With ISIS cutting heads off, and children being blown up in terror attacks, I think a bit of perspective is needed over a statue.

    Thats my point.
     
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  18. You've got a point marra, I saw this shit coming from a mile away and to blame it on Trump completely misses the point. Throughout any period in history, if things swing too far towards one "side" there is always a push back from the other side. Always. Brexit, Trump and these riots are the push back from years of globalism, liberalism, multiculturalism etc which has left vast swathes of mainly working and middle class white people on the sidelines and often demonised. The media has to take a lot of the blame also for stirring up shite on both sides.
     
  19. Trump stands no chance and for him to have even half a chance he needs the whole country behind him, simply not going to happen.
     
  20. I think you've veered off a bit. A lot of black people in the South think Confederate figures and imagery is being used by white supremacists to justify violence. A democratic vote was made to remove this statue. You're saying black people in the South shouldn't exercise democratic measures to tackle this and should leave if they can't tolerate this. What is your reasoning for that? And in what way do black people "choose" to live in the South as opposed to white people there?
     
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