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So?they demand a massive discount.
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So?they demand a massive discount.
I'd say that's fair enough to be honest. If you buy wholesale you get discount. They would probably buy an insane amount compared to what they'd sell without themthey demand a massive discount.
buying wholesale and selling a lot is great to a mass producer. not so much a smaller producer. you'd think someone who was so vocally supportive of British industry was willing to pay the going rate for a local brewer.I'd say that's fair enough to be honest. If you buy wholesale you get discount. They would probably buy an insane amount compared to what they'd sell without them
Don't get me wrong, I get that it's shit to the small company, and they deserve going rate for their product, but that's not how big business worksbuying wholesale and selling a lot is great to a mass producer. not so much a smaller producer. you'd think someone who was so vocally supportive of British industry was willing to pay the going rate for a local brewer.
agreed marra. generally something sold cheap to the consumer comes at the expense of someone else. cheap milk shafts the farmer. cheap booze shafts the brewer. hopefully once brexit is initiated we will see some corrections in food pricing and we can start to remove unnecessary subsidies that prop up industry on a fallacy.Don't get me wrong, I get that it's shit to the small company, and they deserve going rate for their product, but that's not how big business works
I think we'll see the opposite. I think smaller companies will be more worried about how they'll get their product to a wider market and accept lower rate from big companies that approach them to secure their financial statusagreed marra. generally something sold cheap to the consumer comes at the expense of someone else. cheap milk shafts the farmer. cheap booze shafts the brewer. hopefully once brexit is initiated we will see some corrections in food pricing and we can start to remove unnecessary subsidies that prop up industry on a fallacy.
But the "kickback" against tim martin is notSo the thread title is true then.
But sales are up !!! may be more are going because of his political stance.I used to meet friends for a weekly get together in one near us, but we've all agreed to stop funding him since he posted propaganda everywhere in the place, and even posted it to our homes. I'm sure we're not alone in our boycoutt.
I'm always skeptical to how much truth there is in these claims likeby f***ing over suppliers. the way his company treats the smaller brewers is nothing short of a disgrace.
But sales are up !!! may be more are going because of his political stance.
Aye spoons is always full of small brewery beers and real ales.My thought is that a small brewer with a less profitable spoons deal will probably get benefits from brand recognition.
But surely that's just business. If you don't want to supply them then don't bother.they demand a massive discount.
This is the problem with binary thought processes. There are many factors at play, as was clearly stated in the OP and the question posed was whether Brexit kickback may be another contributory factor, not THE sole factor. We’ve already had anecdotal evidence to support this as a hypothesis.But the "kickback" against tim martin is not
I assume anyone with a problem with spoon also doesn’t shop at any major supermarket, buy cheap clothes, or indeed anything that comes at a reasonable price because at somewhere along the supply chain someone isn’t getting a deal they are entirely happy withAye spoons is always full of small brewery beers and real ales.
But surely that's just business. If you don't want to supply them then don't bother.
so would i- but someone posted that profits may be down because of his politics- even though his sales are up !!I'd be surprised if this had any bearing at all in their sales levels
It's catching on though.A lot of big business owners have questionable views or ethics, but it doesn't deter most people from using their company unless it's extreme. His political views won't turn off anywhere near enough people to stop people using spoons. I'd bet at least 90% of people who go to the cooper rose on the weekend couldn't even tell you who the bloke is if you asked
If it was due to his political leanings then sales would be down along with profits. Profits are down due to things already mentioned like staffing requirements, repairs etc.so would i- but someone posted that profits may be down because of his politics- even though his sales are up !!
It's nothing to do with binary process although that doesn't happen a lot.This is the problem with binary thought processes. There are many factors at play, as was clearly stated in the OP and the question posed was whether Brexit kickback may be another contributory factor, not THE sole factor. We’ve already had anecdotal evidence to support this as a hypothesis.
Many people on here seem to struggle with equations with multiple inputs, and operate as a simple NOT gate. It’s a 1 or it’s a 0. The real world is a little more sophisticated than that.
good. I think that politics was avoided for a long time due to the disagreements it can cause, but in this age of information we should be discussing what it means, and where our views align because we can't trust those at the top to act in our best interest if we aren't informed enoughIt's catching on though.