tynevalleyblackcat
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And lets hope we never do.
Supporting Mr Yaxley-Lennon the well known criminal and illegal immigrant, is not the same as supporting anti-racism though.
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Taking The Knee
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And lets hope we never do.
Supporting Mr Yaxley-Lennon the well known criminal and illegal immigrant, is not the same as supporting anti-racism though.
Not sure that Sir Les would be overly nosed with this thread like.Sir Les must be a 'Gammon', or sumat.
themanagersnot2blame
Midfield
Football in the UK has made significant progress without ‘taking the knee’ or bowing to a populist/ divisive movement.
A little tip for you - if your strategy for success (in anything) is seeking ‘100% of the people getting 100% behind something’ you will fail in 100% of circumstances.
Comeback_Kenwyne
Winger
BLM didn't start the kneeling, it comes from American football. It's a broad and inclusive protest about race. You are letting them hijack it.
tynevalleyblackcat
Striker
You are 100% correct as Racism will always exist. I will stand with the majority who are against it.
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Fuck this stupid phone. Impressed not nosed
tynevalleyblackcat
Striker
Or he is using some excuse about 'hijacking' to not support it?
Chewit
Striker
The reason it will be forgotten about is that people of black ethnic origin make up 3.3% of the population. It’s a tiny % of the population and they are just not part of many people’s day to lives in many parts of the country. Hence attitudes will be slow to change. Albeit I do believe it’s a generational thing and for every decade that passes the discrimination will decrease
themanagersnot2blame
Midfield
Why the fcuk would you get on your knee for the Queen???
tynevalleyblackcat
Striker
That's a good question.
Is it cos she is white?
Ironically her husband is the immigrant to benefit the most from British taxpayers money in the history of the country ever.
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Chewit
Striker
Are you criticising me for having the audacity to exercise my choice as to whether i like someone, their behaviour or what they stand for. Now that would be hypocritical.
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Cheers, my mistake for some reason I was under the impression it was part of the BLM movement.
You dont give up do you trying to make out people are not supporting a specific movement because they themselves are racist
. For some reason I've always been against a doctrine that is responsible for killing tens of millions of people (black and white) across the planet.
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KittenMittens
Midfield
Just an honest few questions here:
How many footballers do you think know what Marxism is?
How many of them do you think would support things like wealth redistribution if they did?
Unfortunately I hear and read the M-word a lot these days, largely from people who don't know what Marxism is and use it because other people have made it out to be commonplace.
I saw Joe Biden referred to as a Marxist the other day, which anyone who knows what Marxism is would be in hysterics over.
In this case, We are told that people who support equality for black people are marxists, because the only other alternative is to say that they're being reasonable - bring out the strawman.
As always, it's easier to argue with your projected/inferred version of what people are supporting or believing in, rather than what they actually do believe and say.
tynevalleyblackcat
Striker
No. You have the right to criticise or dislike Mr McClean. He has the right to not wear the poppy. We are all good here. We all have rights and nobody ever criticsises or judges anyone for exercising them.
If we could only actually get to the above it would be great.
You dont give up do you trying to make out people are not supporting a specific movement because they themselves are racist
So why argue against a campaign to highlight and reduce racism?
That's what I dont understand.
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Comeback_Kenwyne
Winger
Cheers, my mistake for some reason I was under the impression it was part of the BLM movement.
You dont give up do you trying to make out people are not supporting a specific movement because they themselves are racist
They have certainly tried to jump on board it and it all gets very messy - even the slogan "Black Lives Matter" is different to the specific organisation, really. But the taking the knee protest comes from Colin Kaepernick, an American footballer, who took the knee (a move Quarterbacks - he is a Quarterback - can do when they are only bothered about wasting time, not gaining territory, sort of like taking the ball into the corner flag almost!) during the American national anthem at a game in 2016. Police brutality and whatever was kicking off then, as it always is, but the origins of the symbol come from that really not the George Floyd moment this year. Its very much a sporting protest, originally.
For that reason, I think it makes sense for sports people to do it - its kind of the industry way of showing solidarity. Do think, as LEs Ferdinand said, its probably having a net negative effect now, because like all protest politics, it can make people feel like something has happened, when it hasn't. That can let people in power off the hook and misdirect energy for change towards symbols. So probably should be canned, because its not doing any good anymore.
Up to them though, really.
Fair enough, but even if a small minority of players felt strongly that they didn't want to continue kneeling, they wouldn't dare even hint at an objection.
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Essentially it's because they are Marxists and although it's a legitimate cause it has been hijacked IMHO and lots of people realise this, I'm in agreement with Dominic Raab in that the only time I would take the knee would be for the Queen or to propose.
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tynevalleyblackcat
Striker
Why would you say that?
Are you saying that some players may be racist but go along with taking the knee anyway in case people find out they may be racist?
Its a free country last time I looked. Any person or player is more than free to not take the knee if they strongly object to this anti racist protest.
