Shotton axe man
Midfield
Well you would have thought if everyone could only pay the same amount, Sunderland would have the better chance than others of signing the better in this league purely on stature.
Sunderland will oppose a flat salary cap
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BNM
Striker
I always thought this was part of a director's fiduciary/legal duty anyway?
Exactly,all we need to do to sign the better players is to offer the top rate of pay and a second year contract on champo wages.Obviously based on us getting promotion.The incentive for players is there.3/4 of our div wouldnt be able to offer that.
The Fitter
Winger
Something needs to change about the big clubs signing 100's of young players then loaning them out. Some lads out there must have been at several different clubs on loan before they are even 20, and because their parent club is Man Utd, Chelsea/City etc, they are probably already wealthy lads with nothing to prove to the loan club. We've had some real duds like the Everton pair, plus some non-footballers from Chelsea. The academy should be treated like an apprenticeship scheme around 16-19 age group, i.e you cannot be sold to another club before completing it, like a qualification - Professional development at a home grown club. No wonder academy's are failing, we are powerless to keep hold of any young talent and barely any of them make it into the first team...the ones that do are L1 level, otherwise another team would have snapped them up right?. Academy needs to close imo, immediate future takes priority over long term; the last thing we need in this club is another financial disaster from a man named Rodwell.
Surely not everyone would pay the same amount anyway, as it's a limit not a target.
The wage deflation in the EFL will be immense, will be interesting to see how many flee to foreign shores.
Exactly. IF they take us up, the rewards will be more than equal to Champo wages. If the don't, it's bye-bye. Mind you any L1 club could say that, and with the current regime, other clubs might look more likely. You can have all the support, facilities and tradition in the world, but if the management and staff are hopeless, you don't reach your target.
Agree other clubs may look a better promotion proposition but not many will do. Plus not any L1 club could say that as they're attendances will limit their actual ability to increase their wage budgets.
The worse thing for us, as is often the case, will be geography.
Nail on the head there mate,other clubs would be looked into making spurious claims ,well lies really based on their turnover
Comeback_Kenwyne
Winger
He's a f***ing muppet.
Does he listen to his messaging? He tried to persuade the rest of league one to keep playing by calling them out as being somehow anti-football - great work, dipshit.
Now, he is quite genuinely pushing a line that puts him against a "level-playing field". Even if that is the substance of the argument, call it something different! When people here the phrase "level-playing field" they think "fairness".
He's moronic.
It's an advantage whatever league you are in. Infact whatever walk of life, unfortunately.
It wasn't the money that was the problem, it was the idiotic scouts making terrible decisions. With our budget, any reasonable recruitment gets us out of this league.
Why endorse a situation (the salary cap) that makes us to have recruit very very well to get out of this shithole?
Unfortunately to make an impression in the championship, unless things change, we'd have to be pretty flawless due to a lack of money. That doesn't look like it'll be a problem for a long time though.
0321safc
Striker
This will make the gap between the championship and league 1 bigger than the gap between the premier league in its golden years and the championship. Also you’ll have owners queuing round the block for us as we will be making a relative fortune through gate receipts ... will be one of the biggest cash cows in world football. No incentive to get promotion.
Tin Soldier
Striker
A good manager, work ethic and player passion and commitment will get you out of this league, look at Luton, charlton, Coventry, Rotherham et al !!!
Shandy drinker
Striker
a flat cap salary would be better
RichD
Striker
This...Plus I keep on saying it Rick Parry will pull the championship away and dump the rest...
Grumpy Old Man
Striker
It's a nonsense unless there's also equivalence in income. Why should we be tied to what Accrington can afford?
0321safc
Striker
It’s obscene. If this comes in we won’t get promoted in my lifetime. Owners will actively want us to stay down unless crowds get to very low sub 7K Or so numbers .
SAFC 83
Midfield
GG, I disagree and believe every league should have an it's own individual flat wage cap. We should use our extra turnover to make sure we have the best scouting, best training facilities and stadium to attract the players we want at this level. It would make football far more interesting and give every club a chance.
Having said this it's very difficult to introduce something like this quickly, it has to be done incrementally to give clubs a chance to adjust. It also makes it difficult when you have teams being relegated on a higher wage cap or like us with two relegations.
Obviously, this is never going to happen in the premier league and every club up and down the pyramid will only vote for what's best for themselves and sustainability will likely not even come into most clubs thinking.
Not saying for a second it won't. What happens if our manager is just as good as theirs and our recruitment team is just as competent? Money could make the difference. Like I say, don't blame the money, it isn't or wasn't the problem.
Fair enough, but regardless of whether you agree with it they are saying it's to ensure clubs stay sustainable. It doesn't work for that purpose because what is sustainable for us with £7m gate receipts is obviously massively different to what is sustainable for Accrington Stanley with likely less than £1m. A fair option around sustainability of clubs is a limit by % of turnover which they're meant to already have.
If they said its to improve competition and make things a more level playing field then that's different, but like I say they'd need to be doing that at the championship as well rather than just deciding they randomly want the lower divisions to be fair, and I'd only really advocate it if it was hand in hand with the PL making a similar commitment, which they would obviously never do.
English football should either be a country of fair, wage capped leagues or a country where clubs can spend more depending on how much turnover they have. I think it's dangerous when they start making major differences between the top leagues and the bottom ones.
