Sunderland will oppose a flat salary cap

Guinness Guzzler said:
Fair enough, but regardless of whether you agree with it they are saying it's to ensure clubs stay sustainable. It doesn't work for that purpose because what is sustainable for us with £7m gate receipts is obviously massively different to what is sustainable for Accrington Stanley with likely less than £1m. A fair option around sustainability of clubs is a limit by % of turnover which they're meant to already have.

If they said its to improve competition and make things a more level playing field then that's different, but like I say they'd need to be doing that at the championship as well rather than just deciding they randomly want the lower divisions to be fair, and I'd only really advocate it if it was hand in hand with the PL making a similar commitment, which they would obviously never do.

English football should either be a country of fair, wage capped leagues or a country where clubs can spend more depending on how much turnover they have. I think it's dangerous when they start making major differences between the top leagues and the bottom ones.
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I think this is a good post.

The salary cap idea only really works and makes sense in sports where there is a closed shop - Aussie Rules, NFL etc. That might work for a sport like Rugby in the UK, or cricket perhaps, but English football is too invested in promotion and relegation, with the pyramid being too big and inclusive of different sized clubs. Like in NFL, the closed shop has meant a much more comparable financial position of every club.

It just wouldn't work.
 


The PFA need to step in here. Preventing players who are third and fourth tier standard from maximising their earnings. It'll be the difference for some lads between leaving the game financially set for life and not.
 
gatopreto said:
The PFA need to step in here. Preventing players who are third and fourth tier standard from maximising their earnings. It'll be the difference for some lads between leaving the game financially set for life and not.
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Opposite side of the coin is that they’ll be leaving the game still in existence for other pfa members to remain in gainful employment who will in turn leave the game in existence ....rinse n repeat. Of course the most important thing being that Taylor remains the most highly paid union official on the planet.
 
There’s precedent for a flat salary cap amongst teams of vastly different revenues in the form of the NFL. The Dallas Cowboys have an annual revenue almost three times that of the now Las Vegas Raiders and more than 50% more than the second highest revenue team, the New England Patriots. As mentioned, there’s no relegation or promotion in the NFL, and there’s no serious outside competition for its players (which would be why the EPL wouldn’t introduce one unless the other major European leagues did at the same time).

One other very important difference is NFL teams can release players at any time with no further obligation to pay them. EFL teams can’t do that so will be stuck if they can’t shift the players they already have. It begs the question as to whether payoffs to players you’re selling count towards the cap. If they do then that will make it even harder to turnover a squad.

If they don’t then they will be a definite advantage for wealthier clubs. As will be their ability to pay higher transfer fees which could become magnified with a flat salary cap.

Even a cap based on a percentage of revenue is going to cause issues for relegated clubs, especially if they can’t cut players without needing to pay off their contracts. If relegated clubs get salary cap relief in their first season after relegation to help with the transition then they have a clear advantage in the promotion race for that season.

Finally, if a salary cap is to come in then it needs to be implemented immediately after it is agreed (assuming it’s agreed in an off-season). A grace season to get your house in order opens up the possibility of a team restructuring contracts to pull future wages due into the grace season. This is how the San Francisco 49ers kept a team together that would have been nearly 70% over the cap and won the Super Bowl in the first capped season as a result.
 
The EFL are yet again proving themselves to be clueless and spineless.
Sustainability is surely based on outgoing weighed against income not a flat rate unless they are going to propose pooling all income and dividing it up equally 😁 think they tried to do that with gates at one point.
They know it's a shite proposal that very few clubs agree with so are doing their usual and delaying a vote. Which only has the affect of cocking up everyone's transfer plans. Also note they haven't got the balls to try proposing this in the championship
Said it before but I can see the premier creating a div 1 and 2. And casting the EFL adrift and they'll only have themselves to blame
 
gatopreto said:
The PFA need to step in here. Preventing players who are third and fourth tier standard from maximising their earnings. It'll be the difference for some lads between leaving the game financially set for life and not.
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Quite. You'd better believe a salary cap would be tested in the courts.
 
Wayne The Punk said:
Does that go for the 2 leagues above us then?
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It would be great that premier league would, but doubt the big 6 would
flusheding said:
Surely that argument suggests you shouldn't be paying any money towards players as it is "just football"
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They need to earn a living and no one disputes that but should players be earning 5-10k a week in wages for playing League 1 and the answer is no
 
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