Rob Key New England MD

[Voice of fair play]

Sad state of affairs if a lad who only averages 24 as an opener for us has the most potential

Yeah you probably right but it is still the case imo

Are you suggesting we can’t challenge credentials?

He has been handed a major role with zero experience. Zero

Yeah fair enough of course.

Was more getting at the second post on the thread, you have put across you rationale and reasons.

I can't think of anyone in English cricket who has the gravity of Rob key etc


Given how unpopular he was as Kent captain when playing against Durham is it really any surprise?

This has nothing to do with Durham surely?

 

[Twisted]

This has nothing to do with Durham surely?

On a Durham forum I'd argue it has everything to do with Durham.

Do you think opinions of Alan shearer are objective on the forum compared to elsewhere?

 

[Voice of fair play]

On a Durham forum I'd argue it has everything to do with Durham.

Do you think opinions of Alan shearer are objective on the forum compared to elsewhere?

That’s the problem, I would rather it was discussed on whether he would do a good job going forward.

As his past history whatever it is with Durham is absolutely totally irrelevant regarding the above.

 

[Twisted]

That’s the problem, I would rather it was discussed on whether he would do a good job going forward.

As his past history whatever it is with Durham is absolutely totally irrelevant regarding the above.

ok that's fine - i don't know if he'll do a good job. neither does anyone.

 

[Voice of fair play]

ok that's fine - i don't know if he'll do a good job. neither does anyone.

I agree that’s why I could not understand the laughs on the second post

 

[Paddy O'Dors]

I'm underwhelmed.

 

[Parkside]

That’s the problem, I would rather it was discussed on whether he would do a good job going forward.

As his past history whatever it is with Durham is absolutely totally irrelevant regarding the above.

It's very relevant if you're a Durham supporter. His avowed recommendation is to reduce the number of 1st class counties to 12 and given his unjustified criticism of Durham pitches historically you naturally fear that he won't have Durham in his dozen elite.
Aside from that I think it's perfectly reasonable to have reservations about an appointee who has no previous experience in that particular role. We're talking about a senior management role paying £1m salary. The key question( no pun) to answer is why are better qualified and experienced candidates distancing themselves from the role. It's beyond naive to claim that previous experience is unnecessary.

 

[Voice of fair play]

It's very relevant if you're a Durham supporter. His avowed recommendation is to reduce the number of 1st class counties to 12 and given his unjustified criticism of Durham pitches historically you naturally fear that he won't have Durham in his dozen elite.
Aside from that I think it's perfectly reasonable to have reservations about an appointee who has no previous experience in that particular role. We're talking about a senior management role paying £1m salary. The key question( no pun) to answer is why are better qualified and experienced candidates distancing themselves from the role. It's beyond naive to claim that previous experience is unnecessary.

Second paragraph well argued and very sensible logical points and yes of course difficult to argue such a senior management role should have more experience like in any other industry.

Totally get people arguing that point, don’t get in the slightest what he said about a Durham pitch several years ago having any bearing on whether he will do a good job or not reviving the fortunes of our national team

 

[smoker]

As Chunky says, his lack of experience in cricket administration is a big concern.

 

[Twisted]

Second paragraph well argued and very sensible logical points and yes of course difficult to argue such a senior management role should have more experience like in any other industry.

Totally get people arguing that point, don’t get in the slightest what he said about a Durham pitch several years ago having any bearing on whether he will do a good job or not reviving the fortunes of our national team

are you being deliberately obtuse like? someone who several times displayed anti durham sentiment is getting a job high up in an organisation that's already plenty of history shitting on us, and you're surprised durham fans aren't keen?

why it would be like allowing the people who benefit most from our demise in charge of decreeing our punishm... nevermind.

 

[smoker]

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Oof. Curious timing of Root's resignation explained.

 

[Parkside]

Second paragraph well argued and very sensible logical points and yes of course difficult to argue such a senior management role should have more experience like in any other industry.

Totally get people arguing that point, don’t get in the slightest what he said about a Durham pitch several years ago having any bearing on whether he will do a good job or not reviving the fortunes of our national team

The point is that he went public about his criticism and it was unjustified. The pitch was difficult,the better batsmen scored runs on it, he didn't, but there'd been incessant rain several days before the game making full pitch preparation impossible. As captain he had the right to comment on the pitch but that should have been in confidence to the ruling body. That displays a naivety regarding management skills. Yeh,it was years ago but given he's had no management experience since,I would argue that it does flag up a valid concern.

 

[Steak Pie]

Seems a strange appointment.

Never thought much of him as a player or commentator, and given that he's never had any kind of role in any kind of administration position, there's not much else to go on.

Expectations are not high.

 

[Parkside]

Seems a strange appointment.

Never thought much of him as a player or commentator, and given that he's never had any kind of role in any kind of administration position, there's not much else to go on.

Expectations are not high.

ECB puppet-In that context not a strange appointment at all.

 

[Paddy O'Dors]

Seems a strange appointment.

Never thought much of him as a player or commentator, and given that he's never had any kind of role in any kind of administration position, there's not much else to go on.

Expectations are not high.

I've never really rated him at anything other than a decent county player. I'm a massive England cricket fan though and wish him all the best and hope he proves me wrong.

 

[Voice of fair play]

The point is that he went public about his criticism and it was unjustified. The pitch was difficult,the better batsmen scored runs on it, he didn't, but there'd been incessant rain several days before the game making full pitch preparation impossible. As captain he had the right to comment on the pitch but that should have been in confidence to the ruling body. That displays a naivety regarding management skills. Yeh,it was years ago but given he's had no management experience since,I would argue that it does flag up a valid concern.

I am sure the above was one of their prime concerns when considering him for the job.

are you being deliberately obtuse like? someone who several times displayed anti durham sentiment is getting a job high up in an organisation that's already plenty of history shitting on us, and you're surprised durham fans aren't keen?

why it would be like allowing the people who benefit most from our demise in charge of decreeing our punishm... nevermind.

I am never surprised Durham fans particularly some on here twisting about something in the hierarchy of the England set up, as some always find an angle to do it.

Naively on my part thought a Kent player selected as England MD, might get away from talking about Durham!!

 

[Hetty]

Key been involved with cricket administration since his retirement in 2016. Among his roles, he has been a member of the England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) Performance Cricket Committee.

He won't be appointing Justin Langer for sure. Gary Kirsten or Ricky Ponting. If Mark Robinson gets it it be jobs for the boys.

 

[Parkside]

I am sure the above was one of their prime concerns when considering him for the job.

There clearly weren't any concerns about his history as he doesn't appear to have gained any experience relative to a senior management role.

 

[Voice of fair play]

There clearly weren't any concerns about his history as he doesn't appear to have gained any experience relative to a senior management role.

Yeah like I say it’s definitely a fair good argument he has not got enough experience for such a senior role.

But don’t think he should not get the role because several years ago he criticized a Durham pitch!!

And once again don’t think this has anything to do with Durham

 

[Parkside]

Key been involved with cricket administration since his retirement in 2016. Among his roles, he has been a member of the England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) Performance Cricket Committee.

He won't be appointing Justin Langer for sure. Gary Kirsten or Ricky Ponting. If Mark Robinson gets it it be jobs for the boys.

And the feedback from that committee has been effective during that period?

Yeah like I say it’s definitely a fair good argument he has not got enough experience for such a senior role.

But don’t think he should not get the role because several years ago he criticized a Durham pitch!!

And once again don’t think this has anything to do with Durham

Totally agree. Had he demonstrated relevant managerial skills in his c.v. then a minor aberration years back shouldn't have been held against him.