Pebbles
Striker
A little bit but because of the way your body digests certain things, you could limit your calories to, say, 1500 a day but eat processed food such as sandwiches, "reduced fat" products etc and lose weight.
Or you could not count calories and eat clean and lose the same amount of weight.
Like you rightly point out though, if you eat 4000 clean calories, you're still going to put on weight. You'll look a lot better though
Not going to preach the ins and outs though. It would be like feeding myself to the wolves.
This is what I'm trying to do. It's a lifestyle change rather than just a diet. I fell into some bad habits around my working day so am replacing my morning snack with fruit and trying not to eat processed things. Carbs are rice, potatoes and some pasta and everything fresh fruit, veg, meat and fish. I'm having one treat a week (last week was ice cream at the cinema) and so far it's going ok. But blimey fruit is expensive. £3.15 for 6 plums!!!