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Pros for buying SAFC vs NUFC

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5 minutes walk from the city centre. Also if ever a good team is assembled roughly 4-5 thousand less than Newcastle. Potential for expansion to 63,000 if a very good team assembled. Much cheaper, with unlimited scope for improvement. I think Short is now on the verge of cutting his losses big time otherwise it could be catastrophic for my club. It rather depends who is taking over, if it's somebody with unlimited resources looking for a plaything either would do, but Sunderland is by far the greater challenge.
 

70s traveller said:
For someone with a desire to go for either, the basic cost of a champ. club [+its debts], with the prospect of taking it back into the prem. TV money realms, would arguably be what attracts interest from potential buyers. SoL & AoL ownership make it the complete package of good facilities, along with the potential of being able to build a club on the rise with the related merchandising profits.










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Attracting tons of interest though aren’t we?! :eek::rolleyes:

jonny gently said:
5 minutes walk from the city centre. Also if ever a good team is assembled roughly 4-5 thousand less than Newcastle. Potential for expansion to 63,000 if a very good team assembled. Much cheaper, with unlimited scope for improvement. I think Short is now on the verge of cutting his losses big time otherwise it could be catastrophic for my club. It rather depends who is taking over, if it's somebody with unlimited resources looking for a plaything either would do, but Sunderland is by far the greater challenge.
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Investors don’t want big challenges do they, they want sure things. Sunderland’s current position doesn’t compare to Newcastle’s in that regard.
 
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keybuk said:
Apart from the airport you haven't given any specifics. There's nothing that stands out that would sway the decision for a footballer. Shops, city housing, rural housing,night life, quiet life, schools. Every major city can pretty much offer the same. The primary consideration for them is how much will I get, is the squad decent and will I get a game. Good players will go to the north east if the club will pay what they want and the team are reasonably successful.
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Currently at NUFC despite the location there is Benitez, Merino (Spanish u21 who left Dortmund), Jesus Gamez (signed from Atl. Madrid), Hayden (left Arsenal in London), Florian Lejeune (left Spain to come to the cold North East), Mitrovic (was playing champions league, came to the north east), Matt Ritchie (was playing in the PL on the south coast, dropped a division to move to the NE), Atsu (joined from Chelsea), Gayle (left London based Palace to come here) , Yedlin and Manquillo (have played for both NE clubs), could go on but I'm getting bored.

The location is irrelevant, the ones I've mentioned here are ones i thought would be an example of people who "downgraded" by coming to the north east.
 
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I'm still waiting to see which Derby defeat it was at the Stadium of Light where Kieron Dyer thought the atmosphere was better tbh.
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Was the 2-2 game marra. He said the noise before kick off was the best atmosphere he had been in, saying he couldnt hear the team being read out. Not that it matters like.
 
Bob Gurney's Ghost said:
Attracting tons of interest though aren’t we?! :eek::rolleyes:


Investors don’t want big challenges do they, they want sure things. Sunderland’s current position doesn’t compare to Newcastle’s in that regard.
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For investors the reward may well be greater at Sunderland than at Newcastle. Newcastle have more or less tapped their potential over the past 2 decades while Sunderland haven't. To generate more interest Newcastle would need to win things and be a regular top 4 side. All Sunderland need to do is be competitive to begin with. We've never really seen what the possibilities are if Sunderland ever had a top 6 side never mind a top 4.
 
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Was the 2-2 game marra. He said the noise before kick off was the best atmosphere he had been in, saying he couldnt hear the team being read out. Not that it matters like.
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2-2 defeat? False win iirc.

jonny gently said:
For investors the reward may well be greater at Sunderland than at Newcastle. Newcastle have more or less tapped their potential over the past 2 decades while Sunderland haven't. To generate more interest Newcastle would need to win things and be a regular top 4 side. All Sunderland need to do is be competitive to begin with. We've never really seen what the possibilities are if Sunderland ever had a top 6 side never mind a top 4.
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Might as well take over Jarrow Roofing going by that logic. Much cheaper.
 
jonny gently said:
For investors the reward may well be greater at Sunderland than at Newcastle. Newcastle have more or less tapped their potential over the past 2 decades while Sunderland haven't. To generate more interest Newcastle would need to win things and be a regular top 4 side. All Sunderland need to do is be competitive to begin with. We've never really seen what the possibilities are if Sunderland ever had a top 6 side never mind a top 4.
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Investors don't want a gamble though. With modest levels of investment (in this market) Newcastle can be established as a top half side. We already have a lot of the things clubs need to be in that bracket; the stadium, the attendances, the manager, the media attention.

Sunderland would need investment in playing staff, need to find the right manager, have to rebuild the chasm between the club & the fans and so on.

Isn't it a simple choice between how much would it cost to get Sunderland back into a top half of the top flight team, vs how much it would cost to get Newcastle there?
 
The Fish said:
Investors don't want a gamble though. With modest levels of investment (in this market) Newcastle can be established as a top half side. We already have a lot of the things clubs need to be in that bracket; the stadium, the attendances, the manager, the media attention.

Sunderland would need investment in playing staff, need to find the right manager, have to rebuild the chasm between the club & the fans and so on.

Isn't it a simple choice between how much would it cost to get Sunderland back into a top half of the top flight team, vs how much it would cost to get Newcastle there?
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There's a reason Ashley wants out asap and it may have something to do with a nasty situation in the offing. Sunderland and Newcastle are similar in size similar in loyal fan base why wouldn't an investor choose the much cheaper option if only to protect their investment if things go wrong. After all nothing is guaranteed in football.

Sima said:
Don't know what you're on about now. Probably best you just go back to dropping random bits about MagMugs and HMRC. It's your level imo.
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Well I do seem to have hit a nerve with my HMRC comments. If it was my club I'd be seriously worried. However I'm not surprised; you come across as a bit thick and totally obsessed with all things Sunderland.
 
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We's be a hell of a lot cheaper that's for certain. But that obviously reflects where we are at compared to Mags.

What is Short expecting to sell us for?
 
jonny gently said:
There's a reason Ashley wants out asap and it may have something to do with a nasty situation in the offing. Sunderland and Newcastle are similar in size similar in loyal fan base why wouldn't an investor choose the much cheaper option if only to protect their investment if things go wrong. After all nothing is guaranteed in football.


Well I do seem to have hit a nerve with my HMRC comments. If it was my club I'd be seriously worried. However I'm not surprised; you come across as a bit thick and totally obsessed with all things Sunderland.
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:lol:

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