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Marky Mark

New Member
£2000 consolidated rise
£1000 non con in July 23
Paternity double to 10 days paid
Bereavement 5 days for all apart from in laws
Shift change notice doubled to 10 days
Oh and a xtra holiday every year for 25 years service

What turns this into a yes vote. Although tbh it’s a golden buzzer for me Ant n Dec 🤣👍

Any takers
As you can clearly see from the 80% NO vote, while this might have been a great deal for you, the majority were not impressed...

Having talked to workers in Body / Unit / Trim 1 / Trim 2 and "upstairs", this is what I think is needed from the feedback I have listened to...

People need the lump sum a LOT sooner than July 23, the less well off / lowest earners may be on the streets by then...

So £1000 Non Con lump sum in December 22 on our Christmas pay this year as a goodwill gesture to help with the cost of living crisis...
£3000 consolidated rise from Jan 23 to take us well above Greggs / Asda / Macdonald's etc...(as when they get their next rise they will all be above us again)
A further Non Con lump sum of £500 in April 23 (new financial year when they get the next years money) to help with the cost of living crisis...
All the above other things plus an extra holiday for 30 and 35 years too (only fair if you get one for just 5 years, and not many people would get them so low cost to the company but rewards long termers)

This would give it a fighting chance of getting through IMHO...
 
As you can clearly see from the 80% NO vote, while this might have been a great deal for you, the majority were not impressed...

Having talked to workers in Body / Unit / Trim 1 / Trim 2 and "upstairs", this is what I think is needed from the feedback I have listened to...

People need the lump sum a LOT sooner than July 23, the less well off / lowest earners may be on the streets by then...

So £1000 Non Con lump sum in December 22 on our Christmas pay this year as a goodwill gesture to help with the cost of living crisis...
£3000 consolidated rise from Jan 23 to take us well above Greggs / Asda / Macdonald's etc...(as when they get their next rise they will all be above us again)
A further Non Con lump sum of £500 in April 23 (new financial year when they get the next years money) to help with the cost of living crisis...
All the above other things plus an extra holiday for 30 and 35 years too (only fair if you get one for just 5 years, and not many people would get them so low cost to the company but rewards long termers)

This would give it a fighting chance of getting through IMHO...
Why the hell are we suddenly comparing wages of a car manufacturer to a supermarket it’s a totally different industry ! they are doing that because they dare not compare it to other car manufacturers
 

dick vin dick

Reserve Squad
Not using basic changes in policy that have been created by Nissans race to the bottom approach to recruitment as leverage in rewarding the same staff you’ve stripped most of the benefits from to begin with.
The sad thing is mate, insm
Having my first in March so for me this is as CoCo fella said very welcome to me. I think most people missed all these key improvements n focused on being compared to Asda n Mcdonslds🤣👍
As you can clearly see from the 80% NO vote, while this might have been a great deal for you, the majority were not impressed...

Having talked to workers in Body / Unit / Trim 1 / Trim 2 and "upstairs", this is what I think is needed from the feedback I have listened to...

People need the lump sum a LOT sooner than July 23, the less well off / lowest earners may be on the streets by then...

So £1000 Non Con lump sum in December 22 on our Christmas pay this year as a goodwill gesture to help with the cost of living crisis...
£3000 consolidated rise from Jan 23 to take us well above Greggs / Asda / Macdonald's etc...(as when they get their next rise they will all be above us again)
A further Non Con lump sum of £500 in April 23 (new financial year when they get the next years money) to help with the cost of living crisis...
All the above other things plus an extra holiday for 30 and 35 years too (only fair if you get one for just 5 years, and not many people would get them so low cost to the company but rewards long termers)

This would give it a fighting chance of getting through IMHO...
Not disagree with the lump sum sooner mate. I’ve come from shithole suppliers where I know giving current interest rise to employees would av closed us. Am from the Che Guevara era mate. High interest rates are a government / national issue and we should be kicking there doors in. If people believe that companies can protect them against high interest spikes and gas n electric bills they are kidding themselves mate. I suggest all your mates in body, offices, unit n trim 1 n 2 start by burning there bras in protest and join the Tooting Peoples Popular Front!! Power to the people Smiffy 🤣🤣
Why the hell are we suddenly comparing wages of a car manufacturer to a supermarket it’s a totally different industry ! they are doing that because they dare not compare it to other car manufacturers
Av actually pinched copy of presentation from SV cos it was too fast for me. The slide compares us to Other car manufacturers. However I can’t afford a Range Rover or a BMW therefore because most people can’t that’s why we shop at Asda and buy McDonald’s and everyone’s attention was drawn to them🤣 Big Mac for me please 🤣
 
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The sad thing is mate, insm
Having my first in March so for me this is as CoCo fella said very welcome to me. I think most people missed all these key improvements n focused on being compared to Asda n Mcdonslds🤣👍

Not disagree with the lump sum sooner mate. I’ve come from shithole suppliers where I know giving current interest rise to employees would av closed us. Am from the Che Guevara era mate. High interest rates are a government / national issue and we should be kicking there doors in. If people believe that companies can protect them against high interest spikes and gas n electric bills they are kidding themselves mate. I suggest all your mates in body, offices, unit n trim 1 n 2 start by burning there bras in protest and join the Tooting Peoples Popular Front!! Power to the people Smiffy 🤣🤣

Av actually pinched copy of presentation from SV cos it was too fast for me. The slide compares us to Other car manufacturers. However I can’t afford a Range Rover or a BMW therefore because most people can’t that’s why we shop at Asda and buy McDonald’s and everyone’s attention was drawn to them🤣 Big Mac for me please 🤣
I can't afford a Nissan either.:lol:
 

dick vin dick

Reserve Squad
Reported.
Come on lads play nice or I am taking my ball back 🤣😉
The sad thing is mate, insm
Having my first in March so for me this is as CoCo fella said very welcome to me. I think most people missed all these key improvements n focused on being compared to Asda n Mcdonslds🤣👍

Not disagree with the lump sum sooner mate. I’ve come from shithole suppliers where I know giving current interest rise to employees would av closed us. Am from the Che Guevara era mate. High interest rates are a government / national issue and we should be kicking there doors in. If people believe that companies can protect them against high interest spikes and gas n electric bills they are kidding themselves mate. I suggest all your mates in body, offices, unit n trim 1 n 2 start by burning there bras in protest and join the Tooting Peoples Popular Front!! Power to the people Smiffy 🤣🤣

Av actually pinched copy of presentation from SV cos it was too fast for me. The slide compares us to Other car manufacturers. However I can’t afford a Range Rover or a BMW therefore because most people can’t that’s why we shop at Asda and buy McDonald’s and everyone’s attention was drawn to them🤣 Big Mac for me please 🤣
On another topic lads has anybody tried Asking ASKHR for anything!!! OMG you’ve got mare chance asking your lass for a threesome with her sister then getting a response off them. Only wanted to cancel Xmas savings club…. Don’t even think this fella celebrated Christmas 🤣🤣gave up!
I can't afford a Nissan either.:lol:
Should see our car scheme lease prices mate…. I can’t afford them🤣
 
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Baldy1973

Reserve Squad
As you can clearly see from the 80% NO vote, while this might have been a great deal for you, the majority were not impressed...

Having talked to workers in Body / Unit / Trim 1 / Trim 2 and "upstairs", this is what I think is needed from the feedback I have listened to...

People need the lump sum a LOT sooner than July 23, the less well off / lowest earners may be on the streets by then...

So £1000 Non Con lump sum in December 22 on our Christmas pay this year as a goodwill gesture to help with the cost of living crisis...
£3000 consolidated rise from Jan 23 to take us well above Greggs / Asda / Macdonald's etc...(as when they get their next rise they will all be above us again)
A further Non Con lump sum of £500 in April 23 (new financial year when they get the next years money) to help with the cost of living crisis...
All the above other things plus an extra holiday for 30 and 35 years too (only fair if you get one for just 5 years, and not many people would get them so low cost to the company but rewards long termers)

This would give it a fighting chance of getting through IMHO...
Well that's not going to happen
 
Fuck the lump sums man !!!
The sad thing is mate, insm
Having my first in March so for me this is as CoCo fella said very welcome to me. I think most people missed all these key improvements n focused on being compared to Asda n Mcdonslds🤣👍

Not disagree with the lump sum sooner mate. I’ve come from shithole suppliers where I know giving current interest rise to employees would av closed us. Am from the Che Guevara era mate. High interest rates are a government / national issue and we should be kicking there doors in. If people believe that companies can protect them against high interest spikes and gas n electric bills they are kidding themselves mate. I suggest all your mates in body, offices, unit n trim 1 n 2 start by burning there bras in protest and join the Tooting Peoples Popular Front!! Power to the people Smiffy 🤣🤣

Av actually pinched copy of presentation from SV cos it was too fast for me. The slide compares us to Other car manufacturers. However I can’t afford a Range Rover or a BMW therefore because most people can’t that’s why we shop at Asda and buy McDonald’s and everyone’s attention was drawn to them🤣 Big Mac for me please 🤣
You don’t compare the wages of two completely different jobs and industries or we could do that aswel it works both ways
 
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You do if people could potentially leave to go there as man staff are not going to go to Ford etc
They could have compared to suppliers instead to show how big the gap is between suppliers and Nissan. Suppliers will always be paid less and in most the graft is slightly easier but the gap is pretty big these days.
 

Baldy1973

Reserve Squad
Or if it suits your agenda and the pay gap looks too bad nexto other car manufacturers, in 25 yrs of been there they have always used car manufacturers as examples or wages
You cannot compare Ford to Nissan. £17 per hour is pennies if you live down south. They get that and it does not move unless you get promoted
 

googleboogle

Midfield
Or if it suits your agenda and the pay gap looks too bad nexto other car manufacturers, in 25 yrs of been there they have always used car manufacturers as examples or wages

It’s not about other car manufacture. It’s about what your catchment area for recruitment is in the area and what they pay.

They won’t pay London wages when you are recruiting from Sunderland. Unless they need a specific skill set
 

Marky Mark

New Member
Well that's not going to happen
Well neither is a YES vote then quite obviously...

Just skim a bit off the deals the Managers / General Managers, Directors etc get and throw it our way...

After all none of them will be in any financial trouble whatsoever, so they CAN afford a few quid less to help out the REAL workers in these strange times...
 

Marky Mark

New Member
The sad thing is mate, insm
Having my first in March so for me this is as CoCo fella said very welcome to me. I think most people missed all these key improvements n focused on being compared to Asda n Mcdonslds🤣👍

Not disagree with the lump sum sooner mate. I’ve come from shithole suppliers where I know giving current interest rise to employees would av closed us. Am from the Che Guevara era mate. High interest rates are a government / national issue and we should be kicking there doors in. If people believe that companies can protect them against high interest spikes and gas n electric bills they are kidding themselves mate. I suggest all your mates in body, offices, unit n trim 1 n 2 start by burning there bras in protest and join the Tooting Peoples Popular Front!! Power to the people Smiffy 🤣🤣

Av actually pinched copy of presentation from SV cos it was too fast for me. The slide compares us to Other car manufacturers. However I can’t afford a Range Rover or a BMW therefore because most people can’t that’s why we shop at Asda and buy McDonald’s and everyone’s attention was drawn to them🤣 Big Mac for me please 🤣
Well I suggest they keep voting NO until a better deal appears...
Why the hell are we suddenly comparing wages of a car manufacturer to a supermarket it’s a totally different industry ! they are doing that because they dare not compare it to other car manufacturers
Agreed but Because thats what they put on the slides for other local employers...
 
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Thewper1

Striker
It’s not about other car manufacture. It’s about what your catchment area for recruitment is in the area and what they pay.

They won’t pay London wages when you are recruiting from Sunderland. Unless they need a specific skill set
Bang on.

Hardly like there’s going to be a mass exodus to JLR in Halewood.

We always benchmarked against local comparable businesses….and places that the workforce could potentially leave for.

8 hours on a production line, or stacking shelves for the same money is an important myth to debunk if you want to discourage leavers.
 

Marky Mark

New Member
You do realise the company can just say your getting nothing or that's the deal and that's it
Of course, but they have never done it in 36 years...

Dodgy once threw a hissy fit when it was a NO vote, and said "Where am I going to get f**k**g 6 million quid from in the middle of winter??"...

Was still a NO vote and come April he found the extra money...

To be fair they have won far more times than we have over the years, especially with the pension...

Gibson always gave inflation +2% at least...

Without sounding greedy, I just think it needs a bit more, including the lump sum paid earlier, and yes I know a pay rise is for life not just Christmas, but some people need the money sooner rather than over time...

Anyway Dave, I mean Baldy, what do you genuinely think we should get (or are worth)? Do you think this is a great deal? And what else do they have to give?

80% NO suggests its got to be a bit more, unless of course they break one of their cardinal rules, "Nissan is a great place to work", and give us nothing as you said above...
 
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Baldy1973

Reserve Squad
Of course, but they have never done it in 36 years...

Dodgy once threw a hissy fit when it was a NO vote, and said "Where am I going to get f**k**g 6 million quid from in the middle of winter??"...

Was still a NO vote and come April he found the extra money...

To be fair they have won far more times than we have over the years, especially with the pension...

Gibson always gave inflation +2% at least...

Without sounding greedy, I just think it needs a bit more, including the lump sum paid earlier, and yes I know a pay rise is for life not just Christmas, but some people need the money sooner rather than over time...

Anyway Dave, I mean Baldy, what do you genuinely think we should get (or are worth)? Do you think this is a great deal? And what else do they have to give?

80% NO suggests its got to be a bit more, unless of course they break one of their cardinal rules, "Nissan is a great place to work", and give us nothing as you said above...
Gibson nearly shut the place aswell if it wasn't for the Renault parachute. My name is Rodney but you can call me Dave. I think this deal was fair especially with the amount of cars we have built and what deals are being done at the moment. This deal helps people as its a pay rise but the company are not going to give a rise to cover petrol and gas and electric rises .
 

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