NHS provokes fury with indefinite surgery ban for smokers and obese
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Coeus
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Id prefer to see some of the sanctions on smokers placed on alcohol instead.
Or just none, whatever really, I just think smokers get a raw deal in comparison.
Can you imagine if the NHS refused to treat convicts, well that would be a violation of their human rights, but smokers? Na, fuck em.
steve30000
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That is a problem, no doubt about it. But I doubt that is what is crippling the NHS to an extent where they have to refuse to treat people
Mackem00
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steve30000
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Just let the self inflicted cripple the NHS to the point of collapse then. Then we'll all suffer
If you only have so many ambulances and they being called out 4-5 time a day by some madhead...
steve30000
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Then that person needs help from somewhere else. Mental health perhaps?
Keawyeds
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I've said for ages that anyone who ends up in A&E because they got way too pissed on a night out should have to pay for their treatment.
Nah c'mon mate. Maybe if they're repeatably in there for alcohol related accidents ok, but anyone can fall over once or twice when smashed.
Lewberry pie
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Make sure she knows I'm the big dog of the smb, @Napoleon Dynamite lass is already in love with iz like
steve30000
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So alcoholics should have to pay for treatment? They'll have no money, will they? They'll spend it all on drink
Keawyeds
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Falling over is one thing, but drinking yourself into a stupor (yes, yes, we've all done it) is a drain on NHS resources.
If you can't manage yourself, then maybe you should knock the beer on the head.
steve30000
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Mostly young people I'm guessing?
Coeus
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If you're talking about smokers Steve, its already been pointed out that your post is way off the mark.
Sam Handwich
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According the the article
Why is the NHS under so much pressure?
Why is the NHS under so much pressure?
- An ageing population. There are one million more people over the age of 65 than five years ago. This has caused a surge in demand for medical care
- Cuts to budgets for social care. While the NHS budget has been protected, social services for home helps and other care have fallen by 11 per cent in five years. This has caused record levels of “bedblocking”; people with no medical need to be in hospital are stuck there because they can’t be supported at home
- Staff shortages. While hospital doctor and nurse numbers have risen over the last decade, they have not kept pace with the rise in demand. Meanwhile 2016 saw record numbers of GP practices close, displacing patients on to A&E departments as they seek medical advice
- Nee mention of the immigrants.
Keawyeds
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I don't discriminate.
Sam Handwich
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Shyam thing
Keawyeds
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We basically need more cottage hospitals that are like a halfway between hospital and home, or hospital and residential care.
The likelihood of that happening however...
Black, mate. You don't say "coloured" these days.
Well that's just a ridiculous thing to say. Give your head a shake
pavarotti1980
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Oops no capacity and funding in mental health, social care so the NHS and in particular front line A&E services (ambulances included) take the brunt of other services being cut to the bone
Well we will be nearing the point in the wheel of change that this will be discussed again. No doubt it will be someones bright idea that this is the future!!
Intermediate care facilities are few and far between but have advantages of freeing up bed space in acute care, ensuring patients are able to cope from an social aspect and allow the breathing space for care packages to be created which are appropriate and lastly reducing the risk and likelihood of re-admission to hospital
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steve30000
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You clearly smoke then.
Cameron started the cost cutting, did he not?
Then people voted tory in again.
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