Man Utd spent £75M on Lakuku and Chelsea spent £60M on Morata. Everton are trying to compete at that level. As I said no chance over a season a 2.
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Man Utd spent £75M on Lakuku and Chelsea spent £60M on Morata. Everton are trying to compete at that level. As I said no chance over a season a 2.
EverBlue86
Winger
Some right bitter replies in this thread which dissapoint me tbh, no ones expecting us to piss the league but the poor fuckers spending hundreds a year on seasin tickets want more than 10 behind the ball mustering 1 shot on target against shite sides like Swansea and WBA.
People forget he was only coming in for 6 months but because Watford and Shakhtar played hard ball with Silva and Fonesca he had us over a barrell for an 18 month deal.
Those saying it makes sense to keep him why does it? Marcel Brands is our incoming DOF from PSV (highly rated who Chelsea were after 2 years ago) who's style is completely in contrast to Sam - why spend £100 million this summer on Big Sam players when the next manager is likely to be a more continental style meaning we then have to waste even more money replacing the ones signed to suit Sams game!
I agree clubs do have to have a sense of realism, clubs like Southampton who sacked puel after 8th and a cup final they should have won were deluded when they have never won a carrot, barely spend money and weren't so long ago in league one.
Everton on the other hand are a totally different scenario as we have been in the PL era since it began and bar 2x 11th place finishes have been in an around the top 7 for the past decade. Its all relative I would pull my cock off for Wenger to manage us and win 3 FA Cups in 5 years but arsenal aim for more than that - Arsenal could hire a total dud and get relegated next year but thats the chance you take just like Everton.
Sam came in saying he wanted to show he was more than just a fire man and he hasn't done that imo - he inherited a strong side when playing with confidence with 4 key long term injuries back and spent £50 million in January on a good striker and Walcott and we are still hopeless when doing nothing but defending for 80 minutes of a game. The fact he's managed no one but regular clubs in relegation battles tell its own story.
Offer me for following:
8th/9th under Big Sam playing turgid football and no cup runs
Or
7th closing the gap on 6th with some decent cup runs and playing good football.
You also have to fit in that the club needs to start attracting fans to sign up for the new ground otherwise whats the point spending £400 million+ if the attendances aint increasing from the football on show. Liverpool playing well also plays a part, I know Utd fans who are fed up with Mourinho because City are doing so well playing fantastic football - I would kill for Utds season its all relative.
People forget he was only coming in for 6 months but because Watford and Shakhtar played hard ball with Silva and Fonesca he had us over a barrell for an 18 month deal.
Those saying it makes sense to keep him why does it? Marcel Brands is our incoming DOF from PSV (highly rated who Chelsea were after 2 years ago) who's style is completely in contrast to Sam - why spend £100 million this summer on Big Sam players when the next manager is likely to be a more continental style meaning we then have to waste even more money replacing the ones signed to suit Sams game!
I agree clubs do have to have a sense of realism, clubs like Southampton who sacked puel after 8th and a cup final they should have won were deluded when they have never won a carrot, barely spend money and weren't so long ago in league one.
Everton on the other hand are a totally different scenario as we have been in the PL era since it began and bar 2x 11th place finishes have been in an around the top 7 for the past decade. Its all relative I would pull my cock off for Wenger to manage us and win 3 FA Cups in 5 years but arsenal aim for more than that - Arsenal could hire a total dud and get relegated next year but thats the chance you take just like Everton.
Sam came in saying he wanted to show he was more than just a fire man and he hasn't done that imo - he inherited a strong side when playing with confidence with 4 key long term injuries back and spent £50 million in January on a good striker and Walcott and we are still hopeless when doing nothing but defending for 80 minutes of a game. The fact he's managed no one but regular clubs in relegation battles tell its own story.
Offer me for following:
8th/9th under Big Sam playing turgid football and no cup runs
Or
7th closing the gap on 6th with some decent cup runs and playing good football.
You also have to fit in that the club needs to start attracting fans to sign up for the new ground otherwise whats the point spending £400 million+ if the attendances aint increasing from the football on show. Liverpool playing well also plays a part, I know Utd fans who are fed up with Mourinho because City are doing so well playing fantastic football - I would kill for Utds season its all relative.
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All clubs other than probably Man City and Liverpool would’ve like ‘better’ this season. Should we just sack the other 18 managers because the spoilt brats in the stands aren’t getting their fix of ‘Tika Taka’ Football?
Everton fans are embarrassing themselves with their sheer delusion.
Hope they get some ropey foreigner and plummet!
EverBlue86
Winger
Everton are in the top 5 for biggest spenders over the past 2 seasons but lets not let reality get in the way of a view point.
Also - Salah £38 million
Siggurdsson - £45 million
Dele Alli - £5 million
Son - £18 million
Schneirderlin- £24 million
Bolasie - £25 million
Money spent doesnt always mean success - thats why we are bringing a new DOF in after the shambles Walsh has wasted money on.
Roker Mackem
Striker
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Temptation88
Guest
That obviously helps and fair play to Ashley for funding that but without that mentality of that we are definitley going back up there's no way Benitez would of stayed for starters.
The next couple of years are huge for Everton to push on - there’s chances to put pressure on the top 6 in coming years in my opinion.
Will arsenal get the new managerial appointment right - they need major overhaul of players too and could easily go backwards.
Chelsea are hazard being poached away from dropping quite a few points from where they are now.
Spurs - will the new stadium restrict them the way it did arsenal - will they be forced to sell Kane? If so they will drop off.
Will arsenal get the new managerial appointment right - they need major overhaul of players too and could easily go backwards.
Chelsea are hazard being poached away from dropping quite a few points from where they are now.
Spurs - will the new stadium restrict them the way it did arsenal - will they be forced to sell Kane? If so they will drop off.
deleted user 785
Striker
I'm not getting into a (very) tedious debate with you but I disagree massively. Nowt wrong with wanting better and to progress and Allardyce won't do that imo.
We'll leave it at that
All clubs would like to progress but people have to be realistic.
I’m revelling in the plight of Stoke and West Brom! Fantastic stuff!
Fletch
Striker
Prob just because we plummeted once BSA left mate , I’d take him back here with no hesitation , it’s a classic case of be careful what you wish for although I understand that if you feel the football is negative and defensive then you want a change
G Force
Striker
From the outside it looks spoilt to want Sam out. He’d have had them comfortable top 7 again across a full season. (Think they’re 8th).
However Everton fans will know more about the inside situation. I remember people having a go when we wanted Bruce or Moyes gone.
jonny gently
Winger
Yes understandable that Everton fans want better but choosing the right manager is a risky business. Leicester were the absolute one off team that broke the cartel of the top 6/7 clubs, yet they sacked the manager who did it. There really isn't a hard and fast rule, except money almost always talks, except when we spend it
Everton need to sack Fat Sham to progress. That's the truth of it. I quite like Everton and hope they do get rid for their sake.
G Force
Striker
Fat Sham
You’d have never been relegated if you’d held onto him. 2 relegations and 6 in a row. That wouldn’t have happened under his watch.
Be careful what you wish for sometimes
Another Everton Fan
Winger
I gave him a lot more time than our other fans but he’s genuinely been abysmal this season.
Like it’s hard to believe he’s made it as a footballer bad.
raba
Midfield
He was more important to us than Zaha, him leaving was hard for us, as fans, to take. We relied on a player who relied on his trickery, I can't help feel that he's too afraid to attempt movement he's always done without thought.
samaistonsrightfoot
Striker
Him and Arjen Robben dream team
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Deleted member 7830
Guest
You sold your best player for £75M in the summer so you actually spent nearer £50M. Spurs have been picking up good players for decent money from various places over several seasons. You think you can do it over night.
You finished 7th last season but 8 points adrift of 6th. The top 6 are miles ahead of you squad wise so spending similar amounts as them is unlikely to bridge that gap. It might be big money for you but it isn't anything like huge money by top 6 standards.
Sam has done a good job and you're an ungrateful bunch IMO. Unless 1 of the top 6 has a terrible season 7th is the only realistic target you can aim for unless you can do a one off like Leicester. However, that only tends to happen every 35 years or so.
martinlumley
Striker
Allerdyce won't give 2 shits about being sacked. He was at Newcastle for 24 games and walked away with a 4 million quid payoff. He now makes a living out doing the same thing at every club. Great work if you can get it.
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