Ireland Banning Petrol and Diesel Cars

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Aituk7 said:
As for them being too expensive, fair point and it is a contentious issue.

As for not being able to produce enough, that's right now. With the entirety of Ireland announcing this new measure it means that car companies will only focus on producing new electric cars instead of a mix trying to guess market trends. Meaning there will be enough.

I get why they've made the move, it's basically saying to people that we're going to guarantee a market exists for you with electric cars so don't fear investing in that sector. If you're thinking about putting in plug in charging points, you'll definitely have people who will use them, if you're not sure whether to switch your production to electric vehicles, you're gonna have customers for them.
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Until they can heavily reduce the cost of the batteries and also increase their range but more so reduce their charging time then electric vehicles will remain nought but a novelty.
 
Dogbark said:
Until they can heavily reduce the cost of the batteries and also increase their range but more so reduce their charging time then electric vehicles will remain nought but a novelty.
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I really don't think that will be the case, the current average sized batteries give you approx. 300 miles of travel.

But we shall see.... either way I'm more interested in driverless cars, that's the future :cool:
 
All this is doing is moving the problem from endpoint (that car) to source (power stations), we are just going to need to fuel them more, create more. Hydrogen is the solution but currently not safe.
 
Aituk7 said:
I really don't think that will be the case, the current average sized batteries give you approx. 300 miles of travel.

But we shall see.... either way I'm more interested in driverless cars, that's the future :cool:
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Not gonna get that range in typical driving conditions.

Driverless cars are still quite a way off too.
 
Spam Javelin said:
That’ll just bump up the traffic flow on the Redheugh and Swing bridges (unless they’re tolling all the Newcastle bridges)
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think they looking at tolling all major roads that lead into the city centre, council will make a fortune

Chalks said:
All this is doing is moving the problem from endpoint (that car) to source (power stations), we are just going to need to fuel them more, create more. .
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<< valid point

Dogbark said:
Driverless cars are still quite a way off too.
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< disaster waiting too happen them
 
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Chalks said:
All this is doing is moving the problem from endpoint (that car) to source (power stations), we are just going to need to fuel them more, create more. Hydrogen is the solution but currently not safe.
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Hydrogen would be a nice solution but "shifting the problem" also helps it.

The power plants that create the fuel are becoming greener by the day and even the dirtiest of the coal plants is far more efficient than a car engine.
 
11 years is a long time, especially as you would expect a bumper number of ICE cars to be bought in 2029.

11 years ago the Tesla roadster was launched it could do 200 miles with a top speed of 125mph and 0-60 in 3.9s. Next year the roadster 2020 will launch with a range of more than 600 miles and a top speed of 250 and 0-60 in 1.9s. Basically range has trebled, speed doubled and 0-60 time halved.

By 2030 this level of performance will be standard across models, add in wireless charging and ubiquitous charging infrastructure and the need for an ICE will limited to specialist vehicles.
 
Dave Herbal said:
What about the people who park in the street and have nowhere to plug them in?
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I think they will need the self driving element to work first so that they can be parked outside the city and/or be used communally for this to take off

Dave Herbal said:
Public transport will never replace cars, until we develop autonomous taxis that can be summoned in seconds.
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And we will
 
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I'll buy an electric car when it has a range of 700 miles, 0-60 in under 10 seconds and recharges from flat in 5 minutes.
Anything less than that and I'm compromising what I need from a car.

The Irish always come up with stuff like this though.
Last year the proposed that they would convert to cars driving on the right
they set a date and planned road sign changes and everything.

If it was successful they planned on making the lorries and buses switch as well.
 
These gypsies will be quids-in in a few years selling everyone piebald and skewbald ponies.
 
The car industry is struggling at the minute because of these kind of plans. The manufacturers really need to get to grips with this change and quickly.

Dave Herbal said:
What about the people who park in the street and have nowhere to plug them in?
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Yep. Terraced streets with no off road parking are going to struggle somewhat. Some git long cables are going to be needed.
 
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