Plums89
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Thanks, it's kinda what I thought really. Have AMD confirmed if the new 5000 will.be compatibile with AM4? I like this mobo but want to future proof myself (as best as anyone can with Pcs) for possible upgrades.
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Thanks, it's kinda what I thought really. Have AMD confirmed if the new 5000 will.be compatibile with AM4? I like this mobo but want to future proof myself (as best as anyone can with Pcs) for possible upgrades.
there are articles out saying that the board builders have (or are) releasing bios updates for B550 & X570 that state
- Optimized compatibility for AMD Ryzen 3000-Series and Ryzen 4000 G-Series Desktop Processors and future AM4 socket processors
MSI Delivers AMD X570 And B550 Microcode Updates In Preparation For Ryzen 5000 Zen 3 CPUs
MSI revealed today that it is pushing out the AMD Combo PI V2 version 1.1.0.0 BIOS for a wide range of motherboards.
which they take to mean 5000 series for desktop
I wouldn't expect whatever follows 5000 to be AM4 socket though (but we'll have had a good run with Ryzen)
Plums89
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there are articles out saying that the board builders have (or are) releasing bios updates for B550 & X570 that state
- Optimized compatibility for AMD Ryzen 3000-Series and Ryzen 4000 G-Series Desktop Processors and future AM4 socket processors
MSI Delivers AMD X570 And B550 Microcode Updates In Preparation For Ryzen 5000 Zen 3 CPUs
MSI revealed today that it is pushing out the AMD Combo PI V2 version 1.1.0.0 BIOS for a wide range of motherboards.hothardware.com
which they take to mean 5000 series for desktop
I wouldn't expect whatever follows 5000 to be AM4 socket though (but we'll have had a good run with Ryzen)
Cheers. That's good to know at least that's supported for now.
Lordofthedepths
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sorry to hijack this thread but I’m looking for some advice, I’m wanting to get a gaming Pc, preferably pre built as I’m a complete novice. I’ve a budget of around £1000-£1300 Max. I’ve looked on pc world and overclockers etc and there’s some there that to the untrained eye look decent but I imagine there’s better deals to be had with the new GPU being released. Any help/suggestions would be massively appreciated!
PTR
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Overclockers deals on black friday are usually great.
PC World, personally I'd avoid.
RYHOPER1
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new GPUs by nvidia have launched technically, but it was a paper launch. No where has stock so its pretty much imposible to get your hands on them, so the 20 series have held their value and retail price.
AMD are launching theirs on the 28th which should shake things up more.
Overclockedrs will be pricey for a pre built. Id keep an eye on uk deals for systems like this AWD DELTA Ryzen 5 3600 SIX Core Radeon RX 5700XT MSI EVOKE 8GB PC for Gaming £869.98 @ AWD-IT - hotukdeals
Not sure how gd black fri will be this year, brexit and the price of the £ are increasing prices.
I can recommend this lot: Next Day PC - Over 250 Ready To Ship Computers With Free Delivery
yes, you can get (slightly) better elsewhere maybe, but not the next day!
you're kidding??
their 'best seller' for £500 is an FX8300 with a 1050TI
£500 for a secondhand badly aging pc is dreadful - next day delivery doesn't make up for that
PTR
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I was going to say that, but decided to let it slide. I can't believe people are still selling computers with AMD FX Bulldozer Chips in them, they were ok at the time, but that time was 8 years ago!
A bottom end 2019 CPU would wipe the floor, even a "Pentium" range. Surely? Plus, its a dead platform for upgrades down the line!
i had thought about saying nothing, but would'nt want to read a thread 3 months down the line about 'i bought a shite pc'
I've just built and sold for £300 a 4th gen i5, 8gb ram, ssd and hdd with an rx470
outperforms the £500 build, and even has a very small upgrade window to an i7 or xeon equiv
Lordofthedepths
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Thanks allot for the advice I’ve had a look about on some forums etc and saw this mentioned as a recommendation to a few people with a similar budget.
www.overclockers.co.uk
obviously It’s a pre built system so I’m sure it’s more expensive that it’s worth if built at home but is it still way to over priced for what it is?
Edit: like with most I’ve looked at graphics card is out of stock anyway
OcUK Gaming Radiance Bullet - AMD Ryzen 3600 - Powered By Asus Gaming PC
AMD Ryzen 3600 Six Core CPU, Asus B450 Motherboard, Asus RTX 3060 Ti Graphics Card, Up to 32GB 3200MHz RAM, Flexible Storage Options
obviously It’s a pre built system so I’m sure it’s more expensive that it’s worth if built at home but is it still way to over priced for what it is?
Edit: like with most I’ve looked at graphics card is out of stock anyway
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Thanks allot for the advice I’ve had a look about on some forums etc and saw this mentioned as a recommendation to a few people with a similar budget.
OcUK Gaming Radiance Bullet - AMD Ryzen 3600 - Powered By Asus Gaming PC
AMD Ryzen 3600 Six Core CPU, Asus B450 Motherboard, Asus RTX 3060 Ti Graphics Card, Up to 32GB 3200MHz RAM, Flexible Storage Options
obviously It’s a pre built system so I’m sure it’s more expensive that it’s worth if built at home but is it still way to over priced for what it is?
Edit: like with most I’ve looked at graphics card is out of stock anyway
even at the offer price i'd say its still (at least?) £200 more than building yourself
coyneeee
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Some awful advice at the top of the page, no wonder the franchise cowboy companies are charging extortionate, because people are willing to pay it!
I build this today.
16gb of ram, AMD Ryzen 3600, GTX 1650 Super.
For £649.99. This beast won't be aging until the 30's
I bought a 32" inch HD gaming monitor on finance which was probably overpriced and it's actually like going to the cinemas playing games in 4k resolution
I build this today.
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16gb of ram, AMD Ryzen 3600, GTX 1650 Super.
For £649.99. This beast won't be aging until the 30's
I bought a 32" inch HD gaming monitor on finance which was probably overpriced and it's actually like going to the cinemas playing games in 4k resolution
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Plums89
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I'm starting my build now and I'm pretty sure I'm going for the 3700X, how have you found the 3600 as there's a big price difference and it's tempting....
coyneeee
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It depends what you're looking for really - Just brute power or extreme cost efficiency. You don't get better than a 3600 for a CPU which will last you a decade easy but in terms of brute power, the 3700X uses 8 cores at at the same speed which it automatically better, it's for you to decide is it worth paying the extra.
Pseudonym Number 1
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The 3600 is a good chip, I'd be tempted to get that and put the difference you save into a better gpu.
kamaras-tash
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I bought mine from AWD 4 or so years ago I think now, just a budget one as I dont do a great deal of gaming but the build was very good nice and clean and no random Chinese PSU or owt
Just saw an ad from them flogging a one for 550 with a 2700x & a 5500xt which seems canny, has an older 320 motherboard and only 8 gigs of ram but has the option to upgrade those for not much at all
AWD NITRO Ryzen 7 2700X Eight Core 4.3GHz RX 5500XT 8GB Desktop Gaming PC
NITRO Ryzen PC by AWD-IT - AWD NITRO Ryzen 7 2700X Eight Core 4.3GHz RX 5500XT 8GB Desktop Gaming PC
www.awd-it.co.uk
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I bought mine from AWD 4 or so years ago I think now, just a budget one as I dont do a great deal of gaming but the build was very good nice and clean and no random Chinese PSU or owt
Just saw an ad from them flogging a one for 550 with a 2700x & a 5500xt which seems canny, has an older 320 motherboard and only 8 gigs of ram but has the option to upgrade those for not much at all
AWD NITRO Ryzen 7 2700X Eight Core 4.3GHz RX 5500XT 8GB Desktop Gaming PC
NITRO Ryzen PC by AWD-IT - AWD NITRO Ryzen 7 2700X Eight Core 4.3GHz RX 5500XT 8GB Desktop Gaming PC
yeah, some crazy good deals out there (whether in stock or not is the question)
after seeing that £1100 build posted from overclockers, you can price up the same spec on AWD for £875ish
quick edit - none of this is helping the used market though
have just about finished messing around with an x79 build and was looking at x99 - but even the chinese prices are ridiculous. No point going old xeon at current used prices when ryzen 3100/3300x or the soon to be released i3 10100F are around
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coyneeee
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The 3300x is pretty much the 3600's baby brother, probably 2nd on all the time list of cost efficient parts, only 5-10 less fps than an i5 10400 and 15-20 less fps than a 3600, an extremely underrated chip.
I resarched parts for 2 and a half month prior to my build yesterday and the common thing I saw from retailers is they advertise below-par parts for extremely inflated prices in the hope the customers don't have a clue - The most common parts were all naff models of the I5, if you're going for an I5 then a 10400 is a must and even then you're ripping yourself off not going for the 3300X/3600, the other I5 models shouldn't even be in existance yet they sell like water to an arab in a desert.
The guy linking the 1050ti system at the top of the page gave me a good laugh, it's the exact system I replaced, and I bought that system for £390 13 years ago
It's beyond robbery at that stage, it's borderline fruad I think the 10100F is interesting. It's pretty much set the benchmark for an absolute minimum requirement to have a gaming rig of an average standard. It's not dreadful but it's not the 3600 either, its bang in the middle.
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