Becoming less of a fat bastard
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mux
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Surely a lad who weighs a kick in the arse off 20 stone shouldn't be out running all of the time, he's bound to end up injured for longer than he's not
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I was 20st 4lbs beginning of last year, I trained every day in the gym for an hour + on the treadmill, punchbag and all the other little exercises (sit ups, press ups, star jumps) etc, whilst not changing my diet, after about 3 months I realised I hadn't lost anything at all and didn't look different in my body shape.
I then started dieting (Keeping the gym in my lifestyle), as of today I am 3st 7lbs lighter.
I then started dieting (Keeping the gym in my lifestyle), as of today I am 3st 7lbs lighter.
Laing29
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i started the gym about 3 months ago at 17st 4lb and now im down 15st exactly and i just go to the gym pretty much every day alternating running/weights/boxing in that order near enough everyday every week with a mate of mine (which really does help motivation) . problems i have and keep having is that it doesn't feel like ive lost the weight and i cant see it on myself which just makes me not want to go to the gym as it feels like its not working. but even if you cannot see it working, other people can and it will make you feel good when people start telling you that you have lost weight and look slimmer which in the end gives you the confidence to carry on 
thats what i use as my motivation. the fact that in another few months i will look better and actually see a change in myself
thats what i use as my motivation. the fact that in another few months i will look better and actually see a change in myself
i started the gym about 3 months ago at 17st 4lb and now im down 15st exactly and i just go to the gym pretty much every day alternating running/weights/boxing in that order near enough everyday every week with a mate of mine (which really does help motivation) . problems i have and keep having is that it doesn't feel like ive lost the weight and i cant see it on myself which just makes me not want to go to the gym as it feels like its not working. but even if you cannot see it working, other people can and it will make you feel good when people start telling you that you have lost weight and look slimmer which in the end gives you the confidence to carry on
thats what i use as my motivation. the fact that in another few months i will look better and actually see a change in myself
Take photos of yaself every few weeks. U will see the difference when u look at them side by side.
It is actually hard to find the correct information though.
So for my first question (as I have no idea what really works) (other than if calories used are more than calories consumed you will lose weight - then your body goes into starvation mode and your metabolism slows to preserve weight loss) -
What difference does 1000 calories of carrots have on weight loss as opposed to a 1000 calories of butter? (other than 1000 cals of carrots would keep you full feeling and 1000 calories of butter would make you want some bread to go with it).
mux
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@Titus is your man for the intricate details to be honest mate.
From the knowledge I have (and have applied successfully) it is really simple. Be in a calorie deficit at the end of the day or week and you will lose weight. It doesn't matter what you consume that makes up those calories if you look at it purely from a weight loss perspective. It's just simple maths really.
Obviously eating only one foodstuff or another isn't particularly healthy. That's where macros come in. I'll leave that to someone else to explain but my limited knowledge is that it is all about getting the right amounts of the right things in your diet.
My own (and by no means best) method of losing weight is to cut my calories by consuming less high-carb foods and sticking to a more protein rich diet. I don't cut carbs out altogether a la Atkins diet, I just find that it's easier to be in a calorie deficit at the end of each day by cutting some carbs rather than cutting other food groups. Then I exercise regularly. Again it's not "pushing it to the limit" - as has been mentioned already - I might go for a half hour run or a couple of hours out on the road bike, a game of five a side or an hour in the gym. The more you do the quicker you lose weight but I find that a moderate routine suits my lifestyle.
There's my second 50p worth for the thread
Thanks Mux. I lost some weight a few years ago following an adapted Atkins diet (because I don't think Atkins is that healthy) fairly similar to what you posted. Now I'm older though it doesn't seem to work so well though :-(...
My own (and by no means best) method of losing weight is to cut my calories by consuming less high-carb foods and sticking to a more protein rich diet. I don't cut carbs out altogether a la Atkins diet, I just find that it's easier to be in a calorie deficit at the end of each day by cutting some carbs rather than cutting other food groups.
There's my second 50p worth for the thread
2nd question is - > How do you stop your metabolism from slowing if you follow a low calorie diet?
mux
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Although this does happen, from what I know the differences are negligible. You certainly won't all of a sudden start putting on weight again. I honestly never worried about this and I've still lost weight. I honestly think this is a bit of a cop out that people use as an excuse.
Just keep it really simple would be my advice. Stay in a caloric deficit by not over-eating and by exercising moderately and regularly. Any metabolic changes won't be anywhere near enough to stop the weight loss, and shouldn't even be considered in my opinion.
Are there foods, recipes that can speed your metabolism (not drugs)? I can sort of recall from years ago - The Metabolic Recipe Book, ie meals to speed your metabolism.
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Spicy food helps
mux
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The difference it makes is going to be negligible to be honest mate. Although as duff man said, I've heard spicy food is the way to go (just so happens I add chilli powder to nearly everything I make!)
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What I started doing was only having one heavily based carb meal a week (Like if you were to have a chilli/Bolognese with pasta/rice/garlic bread/naan.. 2/3 salads a week, chicken/salad in brown pittas, stuff like that. It's all still tasty as anything, and healthy ish. I used to eat lots of crisps, I cut them down to only have one bag if I have a sandwhich (sometimes I eat it then don't even fancy the crisps so that's a plus) All in moderation as they say with some exercise thrown in, should be ok.
Also I only give myself the option of having one takeaway per week but I can't have one if I have that carby meal..
archiesdad
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are you really considering eating either? Probably not - you know the answer ie which is better for you so so why do you need to fill your head with stuff you don't need to know. For 99.9% of normal people trying to shed a bit of weight simple counting of calories in and out is all you need to know. Its a really boring answer but its true. (the science behind thermo-dynamics is fact) All you need to do is keep a food / exercise log and ensure you are in deficit. Unless you have lived in a hole for the last 10 yrs you will have a decent idea what a balanced 'heathy' diet is. All things in moderation but nothing so onerous that you cant keep it up - its a lifestyle thing not a 10 week crash affair. Add some basic exercise and you will lose weight. You have to remember that the diet industry is a multi billion £ sector and the info you read will constantly change and contradict...... its like this on purpose to get you to flit from one bollocks craze to the next making people money. You dont need red days, green days, magic 'points', cabbage water, green coffee beans ...... the list goes on. Common sense should rule the day. It really really is that easy.
I don't think I've been suckered into specialist diets such pineapple, green coffee beans etc as that type don't fit with daily family life. I've only ever lost weight from calorie counting and atkins (adapted)
The carrots and butter was just an example of two foodstuffs - so 1000 calories is 1000 calories be it fat or vegetable?
What about if you drink alcohol your body stores the sugar from it before any other product - think I got that from a medical site.
As I understand it (and its a long time since I did biochem) it all comes down to the fact the cells in your body want to 'burn' a compound called ATP, so the "good" and "badness" of calories is effectively the difficulty with which your body can convert the raw calories you stick down your gullet into ATP.
If you are eating a whole load of sugary crap then that sugary crap is very easy to turn into ATP so you body will use it preferentially, and because you were evolved over millions of years/designed last tuesday to survive it'll even store some of it as glycogen and fat.
If on the other hand you eat a whole load of wax fruit by mistake (since calorie content is measured by burning in a bomb calorimeter it would have a high calorie content but your body wouldnt be able to use them at all) you body will preferentially burn its own stores of energy - ie fat.
So different calories consumed have different results.
So basically as far as dieting is concerned "good" calories are going to be hard to turn into ATP - protein and manky long chain carbohydrates (fibre) and bad is short chain, high energy stuff like sugar, alcohol and petrol.
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