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‘Irrelevant and toxic’ Labour losing out to Ukip, inquiry finds

Discussion in 'SMB' started by MrOompapa, May 22, 2016.

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  1. With the vote being so close, it won't be the end of the matter. Not by a long way. Party politics could look very different in a few months time.
     
  2. Tadger

    Tadger Striker

    Until the Labour Party and other assorted lefties stop sneering at anyone with concerns over immigration and dismissing them as bigoted little Englanders they will continue to lose support.

    I've said it before, the topic of immigration has became so toxic nobody can say anything.
     
  3. haway

    haway Striker

    Agreed about this, again. Owen Jones was suggesting "Lexit" a few months ago, and certainly there is a strong tradition on the hardish left of being anti-EU. It is arguably one of the few issues that has historically united the left of Labour and the right of the Tories. The SWP, socialist party, RMT union etc. stood on a platform in previous EU elections of 'no2eu, yes2democracy' iirc
     
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  4. Tadger

    Tadger Striker

    Exactly.

    I hold left of centre views on a lot of issues but I also have right wing views on others.

    I like to think of myself as a patriotic socialist.
     
  5. Centre left economics is liberal. We had thirteen years of free market economics under Labour. The left and centre-left are predominantly in favour of EU membership. Labour, the Greens and Lib Dems are all pro Europe and have been for years. Only sections of the far left are anti-EU (not on the grounds of immigration mind) and I'm fairly sure you are anti far-left! Aside from that, it's the right wing of the British political landscape that are anti-Europe.

    Anyway, I'll leave it at that marra.
     
  6. kossoff

    kossoff Winger

  7. Frijj

    Frijj Striker Contributor

    Haway man, that's an article based on a survey done by an energy company that includes the quote

    Ania Lichota, moved from Poland to the UK since 2006: 'In England there are so many opportunities; for travel, for culture, music, cuisine, theatre. The financial services where I work, all have their hubs here. I don’t think I will ever be moving back to Poland’
     
  8. kossoff

    kossoff Winger

    But also states that we have far less holidays, work far more hours than most countries in Europe and we're one of the most unhappiest.

    Money isn't everything, hombre.
     
  9. Bagpuss

    Bagpuss Striker

    100% agree, if the only way to win an election is to give in to the xenophobes then I too hope they stick to their guns whatever the consequences.
     
  10. Frijj

    Frijj Striker Contributor

    Okay if you want to think that on the back of a survey done by an energy company that people in Eastern Europe have a better quality of life than in the UK by all means mate, get a job out there

    I think we both know that Eastern Europe is considerably less advanced than Western Europe but if you want to think differently, maybe USwitch were right all along!
     
  11. Tadger

    Tadger Striker

    By "giving in to xenophobes" do you mean acknowledging the legitimate concerns people have about mass immigration?
     
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  12. Arseholes like you will see the labour party out if office for a long time. Never mind your a teacher so you won't be suffering
     
  13. Skandhaless

    Skandhaless Striker

    You anti public services as well now then rob ?
     
  14. Brexit

    Brexit Winger

    I cannot believe that people really think like that post you quoted. It's staggering. The level of superiority and sneering is damaging the party so much.
     
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  15. Tadger

    Tadger Striker

    Agreed.

    Frankly, the modern left is soft as shite.
     
  16. Brexit

    Brexit Winger

    Far too much contempt and hate. Not very endearing at all.
     
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  17. No, not a single thing in my post suggested I am either
     
  18. Tadger

    Tadger Striker

    Apparently those that have concerns about mass inmigration are badly educated and simply don't understand the economics of it all.
     
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  19. Skandhaless

    Skandhaless Striker

    Ok , just checking .
     
  20. Brexit

    Brexit Winger

    You may be surprised to learn that I'm, with my username, not a stranger to being on the receiving end of such opinions.
     
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