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Depression thread continued...

Awkward situation; remain calm & pick your words carefully when you next see the person. Try to forget the fo comment, that person needs to look into the situation. Playing it as a light hearted throw away comment does not get them out of it. If it leads anywhere else mention the under breath (but clear) fo comment. That's a disciplinary matter itself.
I know I sometimes don't get it sometimes and I know it's an ASD thing. Yup, normal people don't get it, but ASD people are more prone due to the social queues and I did have to deploy my coping strategies.

It's as though she forgot I'm on the scale the way she behaved and that hurt coming from someone I consider a friend.

It would be works chat tomorrow (I may be office - better for training - or home, but she will be at home - hybrid) or face-to-face Tuesday and I'm trying to decide which is better.
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She will deny the FO again. If both of us had apologised to each other, that would have been an end to it.
 
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I know I sometimes don't get it sometimes and I know it's an ASD thing. Yup, normal people don't get it, but ASD people are more prone due to the social queues and I did have to deploy my coping strategies.

It's as though she forgot I'm on the scale the way she behaved and that hurt coming from someone I consider a friend.

It would be works chat tomorrow (I may be office - better for training - or home, but she will be at home - hybrid) or face-to-face Tuesday and I'm trying to decide which is better.
ASD is part of you, people need to accept that & behave accordingly. Don't let recent events get to you, or hide yourself away then the other wins. What she did was offensive and she needs to learn that.
 
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ASD is part of you, people need to accept that & behave accordingly. Don't let recent events get to you, or hide yourself away then the other wins. What she did was offensive and she needs to learn that.
I chose not to talk to her today.

We're now on different teams at work and am wondering if Yesterday's words should be it for a while. I'm thinking as I don't have to interact with her directly at this time, if some space is the best approach.

The longer it's left, the more likely it is the situation will lead to the friendship drifting apart. But also, I wonder the way she talked to me if perhaps the friendship has run it's course. That hurts, but perhaps this is the end of the road.
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EDIT: I've sent her a message explaining how I feel and that at the point of the exchange, I was having a little struggle.

I'll talk to her next week.
 
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I chose not to talk to her today.

We're now on different teams at work and am wondering if Yesterday's words should be it for a while. I'm thinking as I don't have to interact with her directly at this time, if some space is the best approach.

The longer it's left, the more likely it is the situation will lead to the friendship drifting apart. But also, I wonder the way she talked to me if perhaps the friendship has run it's course. That hurts, but perhaps this is the end of the road.
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EDIT: I've sent her a message explaining how I feel and that at the point of the exchange, I was having a little struggle.

I'll talk to her next week.
I generally agree that the end of that friendship is close, the space may work so she may come back to you positively but see what next week brings. The msg may add something to what happened.
 
I generally agree that the end of that friendship is close, the space may work so she may come back to you positively but see what next week brings. The msg may add something to what happened.
I've not been over the top and I've chosen to be subtle.

The approach I've used is to say "If you see me like you did on Thursday for a prolonged period, just check I'm okay. I sometimes just "don't get it". It's easy to forget I'm on the scale. Sometimes my cheek is me masking." Those are terms she'll understand.

When I talk to her next week, I'll tell her the truth. For a few hours after a reasonably long good run, I was for a few hours struggling. A few kinds word are a big help.
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I'll admit to a brief half hour of feeling down with the previous message.

A retired mental health nurse has also said I need to put across what my ASD means to me and how it manifests, normally under stress.
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It doesn't help matters I'm changing teams at work, a change I had no say in and this is a big deal of you're ASD. My mental health was on the up.

I've woke up this morning after a bad nightmare about it, feeling a bit crap to be honest.

If this was happening 3 months on, I might be in a better position to handle it.
 
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If anyone wants to get a better understanding of mental health issues Free Courses In England do several online courses. You have to sign up but they are funded by the government so are free to students. I'm doing the awareness one at age 56. It's a 12 week course that requires assessments to be completed so needs some commitment but I'm learning and becoming more aware of issues that I think we should all be aware of.
 
Plodding on here. Got discharged from mental health team at the end of June and managing ok on my own.

Loved the Euro's. Was out working early but managing to get back for the early kick off. I was sitting down and watching a match, then flying around and doing household stuff in the break between matches before sitting down again. Made me realise the importance of resting. I still do that now. For example, rather than plough on and try and do all the garden jobs in one go, I'll do a bit, then sit down and have a drink, then go back and do a bit more. It's not as hard on my body that way. I need to accept I'm not well and physically can't do everything I want to do.

Enjoyed our holidays. Was good to get away with the bairn and we did loads of cool stuff. Still had one eye on works emails though as with being freelance, I'm never truly off work.

Work has been a disaster since my holidays due to late deliveries of stuff from couriers and clients changing dates willy nilly. I had worked booked in for week commencing the 19th Aug but didn't get the stuff till Friday 23rd, then I couldn't squeeze them into the short bank holiday week as I was fully booked. I've been getting hassled over the last week but have finally caught up and done those. This week I had work booked on Mon and Tues. Didn't get the Tues job stuff till late Tues afternoon and the Monday job box came on Wednesday. Managed to squeeze one store in on Thursday but now have to squeeze the rest into next week and I've already got a full diary. Declined a call in Middlesbrough this week as I didn't have time to drive all the way down there. A box of stuff for that store randomly turned up and the contact said it would be easier if I could do it rather than organising a courier collection and finding someone else to do it. Feel like I've been shafted there and that's another one to try and squeeze into next week. It's a short week as well as my car has a fault on it and it's booked into the garage on Wednesday so I can't work that day. I was supposed to be doing work on Wed, but it got postponed so I booked the garage, then it got put back on again, so I've got to squeeze that into Thurs or Fri which are already fully booked. Think it's made up my mind that I need to look for something else. I've put a few applications in for home working again but nothing has happened yet. Applied for one with a travel company doing back office admin with queries from people who've booked their holidays and the hosts abroad who do the tours etc. Got a nice personal reply saying no thanks but they had over 1200 applicants for that one! I'll keep looking and applying for anything I like the look of.

Need to start tackling all the jobs that have built up while I've been unwell this year. My bathroom cabinet was a bit of a disaster area. It's got first aid stuff, medicines and beauty stuff like micellar water and tweezers in it. Often when I opened it, loads of stuff would fall out. I'd be wanting to quickly wipe eye make up off on an evening and end up picking up plasters and stuff from all over the floor while muttering FFS man! Bought some plastic trays, chucked away the out of date stuff and everything is organised and doesn't fall out now. It only took 10-15 mins and lead me to think why couldn't I have done that sooner rather than getting annoyed every time I opened the cupboard! That lead me to think we need to celebrate the little wins as they encourage you to keep plodding on. Would a little wins thread help people?
 
If anyone wants to get a better understanding of mental health issues Free Courses In England do several online courses. You have to sign up but they are funded by the government so are free to students. I'm doing the awareness one at age 56. It's a 12 week course that requires assessments to be completed so needs some commitment but I'm learning and becoming more aware of issues that I think we should all be aware of.
A worthwhile course for anyone with an interest. Knowledge, awareness & understanding of anyone's personal condition and behaviour is of benefit 👍
Plodding on here. Got discharged from mental health team at the end of June and managing ok on my own.

Loved the Euro's. Was out working early but managing to get back for the early kick off. I was sitting down and watching a match, then flying around and doing household stuff in the break between matches before sitting down again. Made me realise the importance of resting. I still do that now. For example, rather than plough on and try and do all the garden jobs in one go, I'll do a bit, then sit down and have a drink, then go back and do a bit more. It's not as hard on my body that way. I need to accept I'm not well and physically can't do everything I want to do.

Enjoyed our holidays. Was good to get away with the bairn and we did loads of cool stuff. Still had one eye on works emails though as with being freelance, I'm never truly off work.

Work has been a disaster since my holidays due to late deliveries of stuff from couriers and clients changing dates willy nilly. I had worked booked in for week commencing the 19th Aug but didn't get the stuff till Friday 23rd, then I couldn't squeeze them into the short bank holiday week as I was fully booked. I've been getting hassled over the last week but have finally caught up and done those. This week I had work booked on Mon and Tues. Didn't get the Tues job stuff till late Tues afternoon and the Monday job box came on Wednesday. Managed to squeeze one store in on Thursday but now have to squeeze the rest into next week and I've already got a full diary. Declined a call in Middlesbrough this week as I didn't have time to drive all the way down there. A box of stuff for that store randomly turned up and the contact said it would be easier if I could do it rather than organising a courier collection and finding someone else to do it. Feel like I've been shafted there and that's another one to try and squeeze into next week. It's a short week as well as my car has a fault on it and it's booked into the garage on Wednesday so I can't work that day. I was supposed to be doing work on Wed, but it got postponed so I booked the garage, then it got put back on again, so I've got to squeeze that into Thurs or Fri which are already fully booked. Think it's made up my mind that I need to look for something else. I've put a few applications in for home working again but nothing has happened yet. Applied for one with a travel company doing back office admin with queries from people who've booked their holidays and the hosts abroad who do the tours etc. Got a nice personal reply saying no thanks but they had over 1200 applicants for that one! I'll keep looking and applying for anything I like the look of.

Need to start tackling all the jobs that have built up while I've been unwell this year. My bathroom cabinet was a bit of a disaster area. It's got first aid stuff, medicines and beauty stuff like micellar water and tweezers in it. Often when I opened it, loads of stuff would fall out. I'd be wanting to quickly wipe eye make up off on an evening and end up picking up plasters and stuff from all over the floor while muttering FFS man! Bought some plastic trays, chucked away the out of date stuff and everything is organised and doesn't fall out now. It only took 10-15 mins and lead me to think why couldn't I have done that sooner rather than getting annoyed every time I opened the cupboard! That lead me to think we need to celebrate the little wins as they encourage you to keep plodding on. Would a little wins thread help people?
As I've probably posted earlier Becs; look after yourself first - so plod on with the holidays to keep any waivering spirits up :lol:
 
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Plodding on here. Got discharged from mental health team at the end of June and managing ok on my own.

Loved the Euro's. Was out working early but managing to get back for the early kick off. I was sitting down and watching a match, then flying around and doing household stuff in the break between matches before sitting down again. Made me realise the importance of resting. I still do that now. For example, rather than plough on and try and do all the garden jobs in one go, I'll do a bit, then sit down and have a drink, then go back and do a bit more. It's not as hard on my body that way. I need to accept I'm not well and physically can't do everything I want to do.

Enjoyed our holidays. Was good to get away with the bairn and we did loads of cool stuff. Still had one eye on works emails though as with being freelance, I'm never truly off work.

Work has been a disaster since my holidays due to late deliveries of stuff from couriers and clients changing dates willy nilly. I had worked booked in for week commencing the 19th Aug but didn't get the stuff till Friday 23rd, then I couldn't squeeze them into the short bank holiday week as I was fully booked. I've been getting hassled over the last week but have finally caught up and done those. This week I had work booked on Mon and Tues. Didn't get the Tues job stuff till late Tues afternoon and the Monday job box came on Wednesday. Managed to squeeze one store in on Thursday but now have to squeeze the rest into next week and I've already got a full diary. Declined a call in Middlesbrough this week as I didn't have time to drive all the way down there. A box of stuff for that store randomly turned up and the contact said it would be easier if I could do it rather than organising a courier collection and finding someone else to do it. Feel like I've been shafted there and that's another one to try and squeeze into next week. It's a short week as well as my car has a fault on it and it's booked into the garage on Wednesday so I can't work that day. I was supposed to be doing work on Wed, but it got postponed so I booked the garage, then it got put back on again, so I've got to squeeze that into Thurs or Fri which are already fully booked. Think it's made up my mind that I need to look for something else. I've put a few applications in for home working again but nothing has happened yet. Applied for one with a travel company doing back office admin with queries from people who've booked their holidays and the hosts abroad who do the tours etc. Got a nice personal reply saying no thanks but they had over 1200 applicants for that one! I'll keep looking and applying for anything I like the look of.

Need to start tackling all the jobs that have built up while I've been unwell this year. My bathroom cabinet was a bit of a disaster area. It's got first aid stuff, medicines and beauty stuff like micellar water and tweezers in it. Often when I opened it, loads of stuff would fall out. I'd be wanting to quickly wipe eye make up off on an evening and end up picking up plasters and stuff from all over the floor while muttering FFS man! Bought some plastic trays, chucked away the out of date stuff and everything is organised and doesn't fall out now. It only took 10-15 mins and lead me to think why couldn't I have done that sooner rather than getting annoyed every time I opened the cupboard! That lead me to think we need to celebrate the little wins as they encourage you to keep plodding on. Would a little wins thread help people?
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Wowsers! Out of nowhere this week and I’m abroad which ain’t helping

Completely hit me and the anxiety is fever pitch, now struggling to make simple decisions

Just trying to wait it out and hope it gets better, like an opening batsman seeing off the new ball

You think it’s something that’s just always gonna be there?
 
Wowsers! Out of nowhere this week and I’m abroad which ain’t helping

Completely hit me and the anxiety is fever pitch, now struggling to make simple decisions

Just trying to wait it out and hope it gets better, like an opening batsman seeing off the new ball

You think it’s something that’s just always gonna be there?
It will improve, anxiety possibly brought on by being out of your usual environment - the unknown will have some effect. I'm no expert so speak to some who is to answer your final line. Argubly the more you concern yourself with it could bring on such episodes, but again speak to someone that knows your case.
 
Wowsers! Out of nowhere this week and I’m abroad which ain’t helping

Completely hit me and the anxiety is fever pitch, now struggling to make simple decisions

Just trying to wait it out and hope it gets better, like an opening batsman seeing off the new ball

You think it’s something that’s just always gonna be there?
It'll always be there mate.

The gaol is to find ways to manage it, or prevent it so that you can live as best as you can with it or know the cues for when it might come on and put things in place to make its negative effects as little as possible.

Think too many people think it's something that will go away but for most it's something you just have to live with.

That's sounds a right downer but I think having that understanding and knowing what you can do to manage it helps longer term. So many people end up going right down the rabbit hole when it returns because they think they shook it but once you just accept it you recognise it's come back, deal with it and it doesn't have such a catastrophic effect.
 
It'll always be there mate.

The gaol is to find ways to manage it, or prevent it so that you can live as best as you can with it or know the cues for when it might come on and put things in place to make its negative effects as little as possible.

Think too many people think it's something that will go away but for most it's something you just have to live with.

That's sounds a right downer but I think having that understanding and knowing what you can do to manage it helps longer term. So many people end up going right down the rabbit hole when it returns because they think they shook it but once you just accept it you recognise it's come back, deal with it and it doesn't have such a catastrophic effect.

Yeah it’s a fair point like, I can usually deal with the mild effects, but I think I ignored the warning signings for sure,

I had bit of time off between jobs, and love to travel, but I was struggling to decide where to go, to abnormal levels, it’s like anxiety over like trivial leisure stuff. So made a panic decision

Which has just gotten worse. I’ve spent fair bit to get here and can barley function, it’s not ideal!

I think I need to take more practical responsibly for when it appears for sure.

The anxiety is worse than the depression I think, not like either is great!

I’m even rambling in this post sorry
 
The goal is to find ways to manage it, or prevent it so that you can live as best as you can with it or know the cues for when it might come on and put things in place to make its negative effects as little as possible.
understanding and knowing what you can do to manage it helps longer term. So many people end up going right down the rabbit hole when it returns because they think they shook it but once you just accept it you recognise it's come back, deal with it and it doesn't have such a catastrophic effect.
I suppose that's what it's about; personally managing it
Yeah it’s a fair point like, I can usually deal with the mild effects, but I think I ignored the warning signings for sure,

I had bit of time off between jobs, and love to travel, but I was struggling to decide where to go, to abnormal levels, it’s like anxiety over like trivial leisure stuff. So made a panic decision

I think I need to take more practical responsibly for when it appears for sure.

The anxiety is worse than the depression I think, not like either is great!
Reading the above shows you're in a position to control it, you've accepted the situation & worked out how you ended up where you are.
 
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I suppose that's what it's about; personally managing it

Reading the above shows you're in a position to control it, you've accepted the situation & worked out how you ended up where you are.

I’ve not been drinking so I’ve done that but still need to try and make the best of something while I’m away that’s all, which is tricky.
 
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