The Origins of Covid (discussion of theories)

[Frijj]

Lol. We are into conspiracy theory territory now. You do realise Ukraine is a US manufactured war, not a Russian one.

Anyway, separate topic. But to follow up the Lab Leak. Even if you dont agree you have to ask yourself why none of this is being covered in the MSM like BBC. Again, major topics that woukd have had Panorama and Dispatches all over them like a rash. Total silence. This isn’t ‘fringe’ stuff. These are hearings and investigations at Congress/Senate level in the US.

How did the US “manufacture” Russia invading Ukraine there mate? Nobody forced Putin to annex Crimea, nobody forced him to invade Ukraine, nobody is forcing him to shell Kyiv.

Multiple BBC articles on the lab leak theory. Why people constantly lie about things “not being covered” by the media is beyond me.

 

[Mick666]

How did the US “manufacture” Russia invading Ukraine there mate? Nobody forced Putin to annex Crimea, nobody forced him to invade Ukraine, nobody is forcing him to shell Kyiv.

Multiple BBC articles on the lab leak theory. Why people constantly lie about things “not being covered” by the media is beyond me.

Separate topic chum. Ive said in other threads. Putin is a useful idiot and so is Zelenskyy. Ukraine has turned out just the way the US wanted. At least Putin is in charge of what hes doing. Zelensky is just a pretty face for the West. Hes not pulling the strings. I bet you think the Ukraine conflict started in 2022. Rewind mate 20 years.

Anyway, back to Covid. No its not covered in the MSM in any meaningful or balanced way. I assume you are aware of the TrustedNewsInitiative and the nudge units. People like you seem to think the government is there for our benefit and is at best benign if not wholly trustworthy. Gullible

 

[Frijj]

Separate topic chum. Ive said in other threads. Putin is a useful idiot and so is Zelenskyy. Ukraine has turned out just the way the US wanted. At least Putin is in charge of what hes doing. Zelensky is just a pretty face for the West. Hes not pulling the strings. I bet you think the Ukraine conflict started in 2022. Rewind mate 20 years.

Anyway, back to Covid. No its not covered in the MSM in any meaningful or balanced way. I assume you are aware of the TrustedNewsInitiative and the nudge units. People like you seem to think the government is there for our benefit and is at best benign if not wholly trustworthy. Gullible

You’re f***ing insane.

 

[Mick666]

You’re f***ing insane.

No mate. You are a ‘Joiner’. You are the the type that was at the front of the crowd at The Salem Witch Trials.

You porobably haven’t got enough space for all the flags you want to fly on your flagpole.

A gullible Joiner.

 

[Frijj]

No mate. You are a ‘Joiner’. You are the the type that was at the front of the crowd at The Salem Witch Trials.

You porobably haven’t got enough space for all the flags you want to fly on your flagpole.

A gullible Joiner.

I’m sure this routine makes you feel better but you really do some cross like a complete lunatic.

Absolutely bizarre the lengths you feel necessary to go to, to prove how clever you think you are.

What do you actually get from promoting all this nonsense?

 

[Mick666]

So getting to the bottom of how CV19 started and the BS we were fed non stop about it is a pointless excercise.

You obvioulsy know bit all about anything if your replies above are anything to go by.

You need to read a book mate. Any book will do to get started.

 

[Frijj]

So getting to the bottom of how CV19 started and the BS we were fed non stop about it is a pointless excercise.

You obvioulsy know bit all about anything if your replies above are anything to go by.

You need to read a book mate. Any book will do to get started.

You don’t have to act like a swivel-eyed loon to “get to the bottom” of how COVID started

 

[Gelan]

Lol. We are into conspiracy theory territory now. You do realise Ukraine is a US manufactured war, not a Russian one.

Anyway, separate topic. But to follow up the Lab Leak. Even if you dont agree you have to ask yourself why none of this is being covered in the MSM like BBC. Again, major topics that woukd have had Panorama and Dispatches all over them like a rash. Total silence. This isn’t ‘fringe’ stuff. These are hearings and investigations at Congress/Senate level in the US.

And remember, the counter argument that was pedalled that ‘most scientists’ debunked the Lab Leak theory is BS. There are vanishingly few scientisits on the planet expert enough in this field to decide what is GainOfFunction research and most of them are involved in it and to some extent culpabke. At best they are not going to blow the whistke on their own activites and face at best getting their wings clipped with heavy legislation. They all have careers and all have employers and or are looking for research grants if in academia.

Dont trust the poachers to police the woods.

I know nothing of politics, who starts wars, how viruses work or much else that is related to this odd planet, but I do know how to have fun, which is much more important than being right. If anyone on this forum had the answer, the spiritual maths of that answer would resonate in the souls of all, and that person would be equally loved and hated.

Nothing wrong with tin foil, it's kept me safe...just don't make a hat out of it because you will look an idiot.

No mate. You are a ‘Joiner’. You are the the type that was at the front of the crowd at The Salem Witch Trials.

You porobably haven’t got enough space for all the flags you want to fly on your flagpole.

A gullible Joiner.

Frijj is many things, but will never want to be in anyones club...you need to be loved, he doesn't.

 

[Mick666]

I know nothing of politics, who starts wars, how viruses work or much else that is related to this odd planet, but I do know how to have fun, which is much more important than being right. If anyone on this forum had the answer, the spiritual maths of that answer would resonate in the souls of all, and that person would be equally loved and hated.

Nothing wrong with tin foil, it's kept me safe...just don't make a hat out of it because you will look an idiot.

Frijj is many things, but will never want to be in anyones club...you need to be loved, he doesn't.

No mate. He is the Joiner not me. He is the one that is a’Narrative Parrot’.

You say you know nothing about anything but hedging my bets I bet you had plenty to say about the CV19, masks, anti vaxers etc. A monkey knows how to have fun fingering it own ass hole and sniffing its fingers. Bit sad you would admit to being so ignorant of the world around you

You don’t have to act like a swivel-eyed loon to “get to the bottom” of how COVID started

Youve been had mate. Sucked it all up I bet.

Ive answered your question about the vaccine and what I think of people taking it or not.

You answer mine. What is your opinion of people who choose not to and how they should be treat.?

 

[Frijj]

No mate. He is the Joiner not me. He is the one that is a’Narrative Parrot’.

You say you know nothing about anything but hedging my bets I bet you had plenty to say about the CV19, masks, anti vaxers etc. A monkey knows how to have fun fingering it own ass hole and sniffing its fingers. Bit sad you would admit to being so ignorant of the world around you


Youve been had mate. Sucked it all up I bet.

Ive answered your question about the vaccine and what I think of people taking it or not.

You answer mine. What is your opinion of people who choose not to and how they should be treat.?

I’m in favour of mandatory vaccination (COVID, flu, Hep B, etc) for people with an occupational need.

I am also in favour of mandatory vaccination (MMR, etc) to attend school.

People are free to find other jobs or home school their children.

Baseless anti-vax rhetoric is very harmful. It spreads like a cancer in people clever enough to convince others but thick enough to be convinced themselves.

 

[Gelan]

No mate. He is the Joiner not me. He is the one that is a’Narrative Parrot’.

You say you know nothing about anything but hedging my bets I bet you had plenty to say about the CV19, masks, anti vaxers etc. A monkey knows how to have fun fingering it own ass hole and sniffing its fingers. Bit sad you would admit to being so ignorant of the world around you


Youve been had mate. Sucked it all up I bet.

Ive answered your question about the vaccine and what I think of people taking it or not.

You answer mine. What is your opinion of people who choose not to and how they should be treat.?

You do realise this is but tomorrows chip paper...we are all smart in different ways, I'm happy smart

 

[Mick666]

I’m in favour of mandatory vaccination (COVID, flu, Hep B, etc) for people with an occupational need.

I am also in favour of mandatory vaccination (MMR, etc) to attend school.

People are free to find other jobs or home school their children.

Baseless anti-vax rhetoric is very harmful. It spreads like a cancer in people clever enough to convince others but thick enough to be convinced themselves.

You do realise its not a big step from your position to sterilising or euthanising disabled people or other people in society that you deem unworthy.

How do you account for the excess deaths in young people we now face. No doubt thats just conspiracy theory whereas execess deaths were the key metric for the converted. Admit it. You have been totally gulled. The worm is turning mate. A few more years and the true believers like yourself will be shown to be total fruit loops.

Youve been ‘worn like a glove’ and loved it.

You do realise this is but tomorrows chip paper...we are all smart in different ways, I'm happy smart

I get the feeling you are a friendly little fella. Stay away from people like your chum there. You can do better.

 

[Gelan]

You do realise its not a big step from your position to sterilising or euthanising disabled people or other people in society that you deem unworthy.

How do you account for the excess deaths in young people we now face. No doubt thats just conspiracy theory whereas execess deaths were the key metric for the converted. Admit it. You have been totally gulled. The worm is turning mate. A few more years and the true believers like yourself will be shown to be total fruit loops.

Youve been ‘worn like a glove’ and loved it.


I get the feeling you are a friendly little fella. Stay away from people like your chum there. You can do better.

I am without malice...I fly over others territory to learn of their way of life, I carry no bombs and neither do I have the need for armour, for that is the stuff of war. I do not have a platform to teach of a better way...Arthur C Clarke predicted everything we know today and added "If there is a different way for science to go, the bringer of such knowledge will be ridiculed" You are spiritually clever to know me so well, why not spend some time constructing olive branches. Frijj will always want war with me, and the reason for that will be lost on most, but not you.

Stop and feel the universe, you have a good heart so please don't waste it by wanting to belong, for it is the loners that will save humanity.

 

[Mick666]

I am without malice...I fly over others territory to learn of their way of life, I carry no bombs and neither do I have the need for armour, for that is the stuff of war. I do not have a platform to teach of a better way...Arthur C Clarke predicted everything we know today and added "If there is a different way for science to go, the bringer of such knowledge will be ridiculed" You are spiritually clever to know me so well, why not spend some time constructing olive branches. Frijj will always want war with me, and the reason for that will be lost on most, but not you.

Stop and feel the universe, you have a good heart so please don't waste it by wanting to belong, for it is the loners that will save humanity.

So you concede its 90% on for a lab leak and we were lied to on many levels and still are being lied to.

Also, whilst you are on and like digging into stats, for the less than 1% mortality rate for CV19, much of which was in a certain demographic or two, many if whom were labelled as died because of instead of just with, go and find out what happened to the MRSA and other hospital acquired infection stats during the CV19 pandemic in the UK.

There were no targets for CV19 but the MRSA etc targets were still in place. How many MRSA deaths were pushed off as CV19 deaths. Targets met. Check it out on ONS.

 

[Gelan]

So you concede its 90% on for a lab leak and we were lied to on many levels and still are being lied to.

Also, whilst you are on and like digging into stats, for the less than 1% mortality rate for CV19, much of which was in a certain demographic or two, many if whom were labelled as died because of instead of just with, go and find out what happened to the MRSA and other hospital acquired infection stats during the CV19 pandemic in the UK.

There were no targets for CV19 but the MRSA etc targets were still in place. How many MRSA deaths were pushed off as CV19 deaths. Targets met. Check it out on ONS.

I cannot change the past, and never do I desire retribution...there is a bigger debate, I hope you join it in the near future.

 

[Mick666]

I cannot change the past, and never do I desire retribution...there is a bigger debate, I hope you join it in the near future.

So did it leak from a lab?

 

[Gelan]

So did it leak from a lab?

No. but it was produced in a lab...Covid is pure logic, man made so not that difficult to find a vaccine...man made, man found.

 

[Mick666]

No. but it was produced in a lab...Covid is pure logic, man made so not that difficult to find a vaccine...man made, man found.

Ffs

 

[Gelan]

Ffs

It's an opinion...it defies logic to be upset by others thoughts...seven and a half million different opinions...good luck with that marra.

I'm done ok.

 

[Frijj]

You do realise its not a big step from your position to sterilising or euthanising disabled people or other people in society that you deem unworthy.

How do you account for the excess deaths in young people we now face. No doubt thats just conspiracy theory whereas execess deaths were the key metric for the converted. Admit it. You have been totally gulled. The worm is turning mate. A few more years and the true believers like yourself will be shown to be total fruit loops.

Youve been ‘worn like a glove’ and loved it.


I get the feeling you are a friendly little fella. Stay away from people like your chum there. You can do better.

Okay so a reply in three parts since you're really making three points there.

1. It's quite a big step from requiring healthcare workers to have particular vaccines, or requiring children to have particular vaccines, to forced sterilisation or euthanasia. I'm not going to give that ludicrous suggestion any more attention than that. Barmy.

2. A common tactic of people such as yourself is to cite an issue or a problem, without evidence and then demand an explanation for it. I'll of course ask you to quantify the issue of 'excess deaths' in 'young people' and of course you'll never show your working, your source etc. You'll just move on to the next wild claim or silly point.

I've just downloaded the excess deaths figures, so I'd like you to explain yourself - show me your source or your working to support your claim regarding excess deaths in "young people". Pitch your claim to me.

3. Lastly you've got this bizarre obsession with me being tricked or had or bamboozled somehow. It's very very strange, but you're a very strange chap.