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Seems Mackintosh is out for the last 2 games hence bringing in Benjamin on loan, downside of only having 1 wicketkeeper at the club. Benjamin is an ex Durham uni graduate, but more of a t20 specialist
 
Named in the squad so if he's got injured this morning we've done well to bring someone in at such short notice 😅
Exactly-something not right there. Negotiations for a loan don't happen overnight. Macintosh taken umbrage because of Robinson's signing.

Good news though ,my membership renewal arrived today with Bostock promising

"It is this mix of emerging and existing talent with the addition of some new faces that gives us hope for a successful and exciting 2023.
The team will be led by a new head coach who will be in place ahead of the new season.
So more than one new signing and a new face as head coach.
 
Exactly-something not right there. Negotiations for a loan don't happen overnight. Macintosh taken umbrage because of Robinson's signing.

Good news though ,my membership renewal arrived today with Bostock promising

"It is this mix of emerging and existing talent with the addition of some new faces that gives us hope for a successful and exciting 2023.
The team will be led by a new head coach who will be in place ahead of the new season.
So more than one new signing and a new face as head coach.

Hard sell the memberships for next year, the letter we got for the nephew it seems to revolve around community and just a brief mention of poor results. That all said getting rid of Franklin I know has already persuaded a couple of people I know who intend to renew for next year who wouldn't have bothered if he remained.
 
Our bowling has been largely nullified by the pitches this season (Matty P excepted). That isn't going to change next year, because flat pitches are the ECB and Key's preferred option to improve batting and to develop faster bowlers and better spinners for England. That's the route we have to go down, I think. The days of the 70 to 80 mph bowler are numbered.
So, where are all these 90mph bowlers going to come from? It’s all very well as an aspiration but realistically the 70/80 mph guys are what every county has or is likely to get. Just think of the number of bowlers necessary to service 18 counties. If the pitches and balls are the same again next year we are in for more of the same. Flat tracks, balls dying after 30-40 overs, massive scores and a shed load of bore draws and injured bowlers. Long live the fast-medium pacers in my book. They’re the backbone of the game in this country.
 
Exactly-something not right there. Negotiations for a loan don't happen overnight. Macintosh taken umbrage because of Robinson's signing.

Good news though ,my membership renewal arrived today with Bostock promising

"It is this mix of emerging and existing talent with the addition of some new faces that gives us hope for a successful and exciting 2023.
The team will be led by a new head coach who will be in place ahead of the new season.
So more than one new signing and a new face as head coach.
So is the thought that Macintosh got annoyed and refused to play? Doesn't seem likely and if it was me as the coach that would be him gone, you can't have professional players being that unprofessional. I think that scenario is v. unlikely touch wood.
 
So is the thought that Macintosh got annoyed and refused to play? Doesn't seem likely and if it was me as the coach that would be him gone, you can't have professional players being that unprofessional. I think that scenario is v. unlikely touch wood.
So frustrated that he might not play as often next year he faked an injury to not play this game..laughable man :lol:
 
Our bowling has been largely nullified by the pitches this season (Matty P excepted). That isn't going to change next year, because flat pitches are the ECB and Key's preferred option to improve batting and to develop faster bowlers and better spinners for England. That's the route we have to go down, I think. The days of the 70 to 80 mph bowler are numbered.
I'd always prioritise a very decent spinner as our other overseas player, given that Bedders now takes the first berth. I wouldn't touch an overseas batter with a bargepole and I've never understood why we go down that route year in, year out. It seems to me that our greatest squad weakness has been the lack of a wicket taking spinner and I think that has been true since Blackwell finished. I've always thought that was blindingly obvious but for some reason no-one at Durham CCC has ever agreed with me

Not for me marra we need to back Trev, he is so young and he will only improve bowling and bowling etc

It’s a weakness now for sure but this is where backing your own can pay off in a few years

Our priority is a high class first change bowler

I also think Potts willl play most of next summer for us
 
Not for me marra we need to back Trev, he is so young and he will only improve bowling and bowling etc

It’s a weakness now for sure but this is where backing your own can pay off in a few years

Our priority is a high class first change bowler

I also think Potts willl play most of next summer for us
I like Trev. he'd make my team as a batter regardless. I think he'd benefit hugely from having a successful, experienced spinner in the side to learn from and emulate
 
I like Trev. he'd make my team as a batter regardless. I think he'd benefit hugely from having a successful, experienced spinner in the side to learn from and emulate

I knew this would be the response, perfectly reasonable response too, I just don’t see that as working, trev is a work in progress with bat.

I honestly think this conversation would not be taking place if we had a stronger pace attack
Is this true? Or are we guessing?

Not true
 
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So, where are all these 90mph bowlers going to come from? It’s all very well as an aspiration but realistically the 70/80 mph guys are what every county has or is likely to get.
I suppose the thinking is that it's the hugely successful medium pacers playing on pitches prepared specifically to suit them, that stifle the development of young quicks. Stop them from taking wickets and counties will have to find other ways to win matches.... ie quicks and leggies. I know this is Key's thinking because I've heard him say it on interview with Nasser on sky and I'm pretty sure I've heard Harmy repeat this mantra too.
Personally I see nothing wrong with skilful medium pacers relying on accuracy and experience to set batsmen up and keep the game moving along towards a result, but if the pitches are going to be prepared to nullify that then 600 plays 550 draws is the kind of cricket we are likely to see while Key stamps his mark on the game. Who knows... he might even be right, but I think we're going to find out regardless
 
Exactly-something not right there. Negotiations for a loan don't happen overnight. Macintosh taken umbrage because of Robinson's signing.

It could well be that they put the word out amongst the counties last week/over the weekend that there could be a requirement for a wicketkeeper to fill in for two games depending on the injury status of Mackintosh.

Then it transpired that Benjamin would be made available should the need arise.

It’s a good deal for all parties.

Take your tin hat off man :lol:
Hard sell the memberships for next year, the letter we got for the nephew it seems to revolve around community and just a brief mention of poor results. That all said getting rid of Franklin I know has already persuaded a couple of people I know who intend to renew for next year who wouldn't have bothered if he remained.

I suspect most counties are in the same boat, as are the majority of football clubs at the end of any season - this time of year brings a lot of uncertainty and obviously they’re going to say that they intend to strengthen, intend to improve, etc.

Ultimately, 17 counties end every season as failures.
So, where are all these 90mph bowlers going to come from? It’s all very well as an aspiration but realistically the 70/80 mph guys are what every county has or is likely to get. Just think of the number of bowlers necessary to service 18 counties. If the pitches and balls are the same again next year we are in for more of the same. Flat tracks, balls dying after 30-40 overs, massive scores and a shed load of bore draws and injured bowlers. Long live the fast-medium pacers in my book. They’re the backbone of the game in this country.

That wasn’t quite the message (and I’m one of the biggest bashers of FTECB on here :lol:), what they want is for our bowlers to learn to be able to make things happen and take wickets on flat pitches and/or when there’s no assistance from conditions/the ball/pitch, etc.

Obviously being able to bowl in excess of 90mph or turn it square is a skill that will always be of value to any team at any level, but it isn’t essential, some of the best/most succesful Test bowlers of our generation weren’t necessarily ‘express pace’.
Exactly what I was going to mention.

You look at both England and Durham and it's all the lads who are meant to be the quickest constantly injured.

Probably because they don’t play enough ;)
So far today we've have Macca refusing to play because we're signing a wicket keeper and Bushy not playing as we don't want to give him a pro contract.

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In fairness, I could see the Bushy one being true (or atleast more than I can see the other one being true) because it DOES happen in football with regards to appearance incentives for buying/selling/loaning clubs.
I've never understood why we go down that route year in, year out.

Because historically batting has been the area of greatest need for us. For a while it was opening, lately it’s been top order.

It isn’t seam bowling, because we produce a massive number of homegrown seamers.

And it isn’t spin bowling simply because we play a large chunk of our red ball cricket in April, May and September where conditions/pitches tend to be green and moist. You’re right in that spin bowling (both the batting against it and the bowling of it) has always been a huge void - that except for a couple of small periods of time in our first class existence - we’ve been unable to fill, but I’d always argue that getting a top class batsman (of the 1,000 run a season variety) is the first requirement that the club should look for. Perhaps right now, I concede that with the playing staff we have, it would be wise to look for a seamer (of the 50 wicket a season variety).
 
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