This. Spot on. We are just a vocal minority. Not my choice but if he gets it I’m certain we’ll stay up.Crowd atmosphere totally different to a message board man
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This. Spot on. We are just a vocal minority. Not my choice but if he gets it I’m certain we’ll stay up.Crowd atmosphere totally different to a message board man
3 out of the last 4 suggests that routeNot once have I heard we would be hiring a young coach every appointment.
Massively. It's like a world of negative hate on here compared to the ground.Crowd atmosphere totally different to a message board man
Agree with the condemnation of those making the personal insults but I don’t see the bulk of the board saying he isn’t good enough.No.
No sniping whatsoever.
You lot are that much into this massive club nonsense that you actually believe you should have the pick of managers for your club.
You've just scraped promotion from the third division , yet the bulk of you seem to think that a manager with a decent record and plenty experience is just not good enough, also resorting to personal insults and accusations about him.
Just who would be deemed suitable?
Not Bruce, Parkinson, Dicannio, Johnson obviously
but but but he finished 8th mateKnown for attacking football but only scoring 59 last season and only 23 in 23 away games
& finished 8th he does that this Season lol be ecstaticKnown for attacking football but only scoring 59 last season and only 23 in 23 away games
Everyone would marraWould people take 8th in the league this season? That’s what he managed last season and I’d be happy with that
Erm....Neil also scored 59 in his last season at Preston.but but but he finished 8th mate
No of course, that's just a hunch.
No offence to them clubs but we should have bigger ambitions than them....we haven't.So we should go for Keane even though he hasn't managed since being sacked by Ipswich over 10 years ago!
Mowbray took them as far as he could take them. I'm not over the moon about Mowbray but what we need to do first is to establish ourselves as a Championship club like Blackburn have done and not yoyo like Rotherham, Barnsley and Wigan have done.
Could really break this down season by season to give an indication of whether promotion was achievable or not, I.e. was he already managing in the top league, did he take over a struggling outfit etc but a Cba. We can all fudge statsBeen a manager for 18 years and only managed to gain promotion twice ( one of which was 15 years) after a rookie manager in Keane handed him his arse in his first season as manager with a 5 game headstart. Has achieved less than steve Bruce and most would shudder at the thought of him
After building for 4 years he got near to the playoffs. (Should have got in them but for terrible end season form). I don't expect us to finish that high generally, just think so much is being made of him finishing 8th last year when many managers gave achieved that, but doesn't necessarily mean they are the right manager& finished 8th he does that this Season lol be ecstatic
Made some great signings got a good eye for a player Bereton Diaz ,Adam Armstrong, Bradley dack . Harvey Eliot and tosin Ardebeyo on loan under 23s side goto the fa youth cup semi final and got beat off Chelsea absolute load of youngsters come through to the first team Lewis travis etc who is worth serious money now
But it's the position we are in. The overall goal is to return to the Premier League but you can't run before you can walk.No offence to them clubs but we should have bigger ambitions than them....we haven't.
Ye same, given the circumstances I don't think we'd get much better without it being a risk or having to pay compensation, is it a safe appointment from the board, absolutely, but he knows the league and has the experience etc so you'd like to think that will count to staying clear of any relegation battle this seasonWasn’t happy when he was first mentioned but starting to warm to the idea. Whoever is appointed they get my support as all we really want is for Sunderland to move onwards and upwards!
It's come from watching every game. We could easily have won every game this season. Not looking at just surviving or mid table. Should be aim higher as a club, especially now after watching our games.Where’s this promotion push talk come from? We are short on numbers and despite some encouraging performances have yet to win a home game. If Mowbray keeps us mid table he’s done a good job
Would people take 8th in the league this season? That’s what he managed last season and I’d be happy with that
I think it more LDS has been steeped in a football culture that doesn't aspire to a Sir Alex Ferguson model. He is you but he has been knocking round a big football club since he was 4. TM fits what he wants young player development attacking football and is free.I and other will get behind him and give him a chance because that's what fans will do.
However I reserve the right to be both disappointed and underwhelmed and no one can convince me to the contrary.
There's a number of reasons and some of them being that how does he fit this lauded model we have? It's night and day comparing him to Alex Neil and Johnson when it comes to coaching.
Secondly he's hardly hit any remotely dizzy heights during his managerial career with zero promotions on his CV. He's noted for taking Blackburn to 8th after having a terrible end to last season and for taking Middlesbrough from 22nd to 12th and safety. Suggesting that this is nothing more than a stop gap appointment and part of an incremental plan to simply survive. Meaning that Tony will have to do one before we hopefully go on to challenge for playoffs etc.
Thirdly it's no surprise he is unemployed, like Neil before him, further suggesting we don't have two pennies to rub together to prize a manager of calibre out of a job.
It might come across like I do, but I don't have anything against him but I can't think of a worse appointment, other than your merry go round charlatans a la Pardew, Hughs and Curbishley. Yes the likes of Dyche may be lingering for Prem jobs and perhaps rightly so, but when folk like Chris Hughton are out of work one does wonder wtf we're up to at times.
In addition this lauded model does nothing than boil my piss. Speakman has done nothing in football to suggest he should wield authoritarian power at the football club. The idea that he sits above a manager is palpable, I have no issue in him working alongside and in fact most DOF models have a degree of cooperation and shared responsibility, it's rare to see it utilised the way we do.
We started the season daring to dream, now the wind has been swept from our sails and the ambitions of those above made public meaning that a limp across the finish line will suffice.