NUFC/Sportswashing - Summer 2022

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Binxy said:
Who you logging in as next?
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I only have one log in. Why would I have more?
forever changes said:
I guess your from the selfish ignorant entitled generation
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*you’re
derum said:
PIF’s directors are appointed by royal decree and its current board is almost exclusively composed of (Saudi) government ministers. The PIF Law puts it expressly under the direction of a (Saudi Arabian) government ministry. Its function is to serve the national interest of (Saudi Arabia).

If it walks like a duck…………….
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I know this.
 
maginpeace said:
Which questions have I deflected? I have answered all of them.
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Ownership ? just hidden behind the charade to deflect from the fact that you are ultimately owned by a regime that hates what you in the West (your way of life) stand for and values you believe in and follow (unless I’m wrong and you are a staunch devout Muslim following shariah law)
 
maginpeace said:
If I felt they were closely related to the football team I support
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wah owned by pif man. nowt to do with the saudi state.
The Fish said:
In the seasons under Ashley, our average net spend (I know, I know, LOL-tastic, right?) is £9.5m. Bit of context, in the 10 seasons you were in the top flight while we were owned by Ashley, yours was £8.5m.

Brighton's 5 seasons in the top flight have seen them spend, on average, £10m. Leicester £14m. I bring up these two in particular because within the years Newcastle were owned by Ashley, they've come from League 1 and financial ruin all the way into (and in Leicester's case winning) the Premier League. Brighton are respected for the way they've shown ambition on and off the pitch, as have Leicester.

West Ham and Aston Villa have spent more than twice our net spend in their ambition.

Ashley's NUFC have done nothing. We didn't even properly fund the women's team ffs.

You can cherry pick the unusual splurge in the window and avoid any context that explains it, in an effort to paint Newcastle fans as 'dalewded jawdees 6inarow, FTM' if you like, but it just makes you look really silly.
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context eh. the context was newcastle already had a squad which cost a fortune with massive wages at the start of that period you've selected. teams like us, brighton and leicester didnt. when we came up we had all that new premier league money to spend so our "net spend" was obviously going to be higher. you were spending that money on existing wages. you keep cherry picking yourself.
 
maginpeace said:
Well I can’t imagine many other sources have been picking over the bones of Ashley’s ownership. By all means, prove me wrong. This makes sense to me but I’m happy to be corrected. I’d be delighted if it turns out he actually lost money. Show me.

Oh ok then
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I have no intention whatsoever of picking over the bones of MAs ownership of you. However, I will treat the vitriolic, biased, spite laden reporting of true-faith with the contempt it deserves.
 
maginpeace said:
However, we are not owned by the Saudi state. We are owned by a consortium of whom the largest stakeholder is PIF. I am aware the chairman of PIF is a member of the House of Saud.
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So you acknowledge that PIF basically own Newcastle. That’s a good start. From what I’m led to believe:
- PIF are the Saudi states investment fund.
- PIF’s chairman is the de facto state ruler.
- PIF receives it’s money to invest only from the state.
- PIF’s purpose is to generate wealth for the state.
- Only the state benefit from the PIF generated income.
- PIF officials are appointed by the state.
- PIF could not be separated from the state by PL lawyers, so assurances were given that the state would no get involved in the running of Newcastle.

Now I’m just having a stab in the dark here, but it looks to me as though PIF are a state owned company, who’s only purpose is to serve the state. Therefore by definition, anything owned by PIF is state property. It’s difficult to come to any other conclusion.

So, if you honestly believe that you aren’t owned by the state, albeit via PIF, then who are you owned by?
 
Mr B said:
So you acknowledge that PIF basically own Newcastle. That’s a good start. From what I’m led to believe:
- PIF are the Saudi states investment fund.
- PIF’s chairman is the de facto state ruler.
- PIF receives it’s money to invest only from the state.
- PIF’s purpose is to generate wealth for the state.
- Only the state benefit from the PIF generated income.
- PIF officials are appointed by the state.
- PIF could not be separated from the state by PL lawyers, so assurances were given that the state would no get involved in the running of Newcastle.

Now I’m just having a stab in the dark here, but it looks to me as though PIF are a state owned company, who’s only purpose is to serve the state. Therefore by definition, anything owned by PIF is state property. It’s difficult to come to any other conclusion.

So, if you honestly believe that you aren’t owned by the state, albeit via PIF, then who are you owned by?
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Wor Amanda.
 
Squat said:
context eh. the context was newcastle already had a squad which cost a fortune with massive wages at the start of that period you've selected. teams like us, brighton and leicester didnt. when we came up we had all that new premier league money to spend so our "net spend" was obviously going to be higher. you were spending that money on existing wages. you keep cherry picking yourself.
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What about Villa and West Ham and Everton? They all had Premier League squads which ' cost a fortune and were on massive wages', they all managed to show ambition on and off the pitch.

By the by, you didn't spend as much as we did on a season by season basis, not far off it, but a little less.

It appears that you've a bias-addled brain where Newcastle and their fans can do no right, so you have to wrap yourself in knots to perpetuate this nonsense on a messageboard where it'll be lapped up. Have to wonder though, in the real world, do you carry on like this or is this just for here?
 
maginpeace said:
The saudis can’t really get any worse. So we have the option to either a) stop supporting the club we have done our whole life b) try and separate the two things, and accept that as a result we’re compromised c) whole heartedly embrace it and start wearing Saudi flags and tea towels on our heads.

The vast majority have gone for b. I respect those who have gone for a, but I couldn’t do that. I’ve thought about it a lot. Those who choose c are obviously idiots. There are some in b who use whatabouttery etc, and they are closer to c. There is no defending the saudis.

I think Erikson will end up at one of the big 6 tbh.

Oh I see what you mean. I’d not drop burn. He’s the best defender at the club that I know

I don’t think Almiron is surplus to requirements but his agent is angling him for a move. I’d love him to stay but if he wants to move to get more game time I respect that. I think most fans would feel the same. He’s a bit of a fan’s favourite precisely because of his work ethic.

Well those people are idiots anyway. There’s no saving some people.

(I am talking about the posters - not those executed!)
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A, Didn't you (maybe not you personally) have walk outs, not buying season tickets etc when Mr Ashley owned the club
B, interfere with Mr Ashleys home and shops while he spent £Millions breaking club record signings while slagging him for offering zero hours contracts
C, Over 100K petition, FIFA "visits" a local MP asking questions in the HoC

Seems to me that option C has been well accepted
Murdering supporting stinking filth
NONE of you should be allowed to post your vile regime on here FTM
 
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