DNECL 2022

Stattos child said:
I’m a massive senior league fan and have supported it on here in the past
You reflect over a time and a closed shop is not a good thing
Participation across the country is down but where I think the pyramid has not helped us is in terms of younger players, when there was no relegation they were given time to develop, now average players in lower leagues being paid which removes this opportunity and adds to the demise of junior teams. Players always got paid but normally only in top leagues not leagues 5 and 6
Pyramids are good for club development but if it existed in 92 at a county level would Durham exist as we know it or would another southern minor county have replaced us
Remember the initial start of premier league was not based on finishing position so teams in that league (who joined at start) now have gone from strength to strength despite being mid table in their leagues the season before , was that fair?
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On the other hand NEPL introduced mandatory youth teams which has forced a few clubs to have junior systems where previously they mightn’t have bothered. A big tick.

Local Sunday cricket is like that now too.
 


NorthCountryBoy said:
On the other hand NEPL introduced mandatory youth teams which has forced a few clubs to have junior systems where previously they mightn’t have bothered. A big tick.

Local Sunday cricket is like that now too.
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I can’t remember a time in 90’s or 00’s where most teams did not have junior sides so not sure the point u r making , I think super clubs having huge junior sections (I think the work they do is great mind) has diluted junior competition
The sections are so great that there are kids who could play elsewhere on Saturdays who don’t get a chance and lose interest
 
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Stattos child said:
I can’t remember a time in 90’s or 00’s where most teams did not have junior sides so not sure the point u r making , I think super clubs having huge junior sections (I think the work they do is great mind) has diluted junior competition
The sections are so great that there are kids who could play elsewhere on Saturdays who don’t get a chance and lose interest
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That’s one of the problems now in that in the 80s and 90s kids would play for their local village, very rare did they travel.

Now like yo say you have some clubs having huge junior clubs and some clubs really struggling because kids from their village etc travel to this super clubs to play junior cricket.
 
wicketkeeper said:
A lot of bitterness and envy in this post



They joined the Durham Senior League in 2000 and finished runners up in their first season.



Better off without them- I suggest you look at the deterioration of the local league cricket in Durham since they were destroyed for supporting their members.

They had a lot to be arrgant about- Most of the Durham minor counties team came from their ranks for years - destroyed by petty men whose only thought was Durham and no thoughts for club cricket.
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Are you happy that Hetton Lyons, an asset to any league, were invited to apply for a place in DSL in 1989 but because it was later withdrawn they had to wait for 11 years before finally being admitted ?
During that time they had to tread water in the County League, because they’d left the Coast League having being promised a DSL spot by ‘the committee’.
This could have ruined them - fortunately it didn’t.
Voice of fair play said:
This argument becoming a bit silly now.

There is no doubt the quality in the senior league was miles superior than it is now, but that has nothing at all to do with what the league was called and everything to do with a different era less distractions and more people playing cricket.

It was better in them days when people played for their own village and own team and did not swan about from team to team to get more money, but again that was a different era nothing to do with what the league was called.

Lastly and most importantly where the senior league were completely out of order and cannot be defended is the fact they stopped progressive teams developing and progressing

It was beyond ridiculous teams like North Durham and Wearmouth propped up the senior league year on year yet others teams who were clearly better were blocked moving up.

Went to a few cup ties when senior league teams played coast league sides and while the senior sides were in the majority of times better sides they were at times looking down at coast league sides for been in a inferior standard league.

Yet when the coast league side went about doing something to address that and move up the leagues they were blocked!!!
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I played in the Coast League under 25s when we beat the DSL in 1984 and also my club won a couple of cup ties against DSL sides.
 
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Eggman said:
Are you happy that Hetton Lyons, an asset to any league, were invited to apply for a place in DSL in 1989 but because it was later withdrawn they had to wait for 11 years before finally being admitted ?
During that time they had to tread water in the County League, because they’d left the Coast League having being promised a DSL spot by ‘the committee’.
This could have ruined them - fortunately it didn’t.

I played in the Coast League under 25s when we beat the DSL in 1984 and also my club won a couple of cup ties against DSL sides.
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That’s why I said majority of times mate, there is no doubt teams like Ryhope, Hetton Lyons had cracking cup sides back around that time that were capable of beating senior league sides.
 
Eggman said:
and Silksworth in the early/mid 90s
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Don’t get me wrong think the top senior league sides were better and would win most times but top coast sides easily better than the likes of North Durham and Wearmouth at that time and a few others!

There seemed to more cup competitions then as well at times 3 or 4 during the week!
 
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Stattos child said:
I’m a massive senior league fan and have supported it on here in the past
You reflect over a time and a closed shop is not a good thing
Participation across the country is down but where I think the pyramid has not helped us is in terms of younger players, when there was no relegation they were given time to develop, now average players in lower leagues being paid which removes this opportunity and adds to the demise of junior teams. Players always got paid but normally only in top leagues not leagues 5 and 6
Pyramids are good for club development but if it existed in 92 at a county level would Durham exist as we know it or would another southern minor county have replaced us
Remember the initial start of premier league was not based on finishing position so teams in that league (who joined at start) now have gone from strength to strength despite being mid table in their leagues the season before , was that fair?
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This is spot on . Teams like ChesterleStreet and Sunderland had been languishing in the middle or bottom end of Senior League before they joined the Premier League.
 
eddyfinn said:
Not sure how a DNECL thread turned into a senior league and premier league debate thats be done a million times before.
Anyway less than two months to the season all 6 leagues look like they will be very competitive in their own right so fingers crossed for a dry summer.
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If you’d read comment #19 from wicketkeeper, he reignited the debate and needed to be put straight, again
 
robkitchuk said:
Reckon Boldon will be looking to bounce straight back, but with tough competition from Brandon, Esh abd Shields.
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Can't see Boldon getting ahead of Brandon and Esh tbf, be a good league though

rightarmpies said:
Think Esh and Brandon will be clear in Div 1. Hylton will struggle. Div 2 i think Mainsforth and Peterlee will do well, Durham City 2s aswell are a good side who will surprise a few.
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Aye Hylton look massive to struggle like apparently. Mainsforth should win Div 2 as well
 
robkitchuk said:
Reckon Boldon will be looking to bounce straight back, but with tough competition from Brandon, Esh abd Shields.
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Both Sampson Barnes brothers have went to Castle Eden, Bellerby wont be playing and Shakespeare has signed for Whitburn. They have brought in Kit Allen and an Afghani all rounder. I don't think Boldon will have enough for promotion, think they'll need to rebuild in the next few years but they have some promising youngsters who may thrive at the lower level.
 
BatEleven said:
Both Sampson Barnes brothers have went to Castle Eden, Bellerby wont be playing and Shakespeare has signed for Whitburn. They have brought in Kit Allen and an Afghani all rounder. I don't think Boldon will have enough for promotion, think they'll need to rebuild in the next few years but they have some promising youngsters who may thrive at the lower level.
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Why no Bellerby? So much talent but hasn't half piled the beef on
 
BatEleven said:
Both Sampson Barnes brothers have went to Castle Eden, Bellerby wont be playing and Shakespeare has signed for Whitburn. They have brought in Kit Allen and an Afghani all rounder. I don't think Boldon will have enough for promotion, think they'll need to rebuild in the next few years but they have some promising youngsters who may thrive at the lower level.
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Have they not resigned Botswain for the new season?
 
HawaySkin said:
Can't see Boldon getting ahead of Brandon and Esh tbf, be a good league though


Aye Hylton look massive to struggle like apparently. Mainsforth should win Div 2 as well
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Why will Hylton struggle? My former club. Always look out for their results.
 

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