DNECL 2022

[brandon]

The NEPL has also massively increased player mobility .
In the Durrham Senior League the vast majority of players were from the area.
Horden and Eppelton for example were winning the league with 8 or 9 home grown players.
Doesnt happen now.
This also reduced the supporters affiliation with their clubs.
Horden v Blackhall
Or Eppelton v Hetton Lyons were games where whole villages supported theiir club.
Now you willl be lucky if a team has 2 players from the area.

You need to move on mate, honestly, the majority of the things you talk about are more to do with social progression and perhaps even industrial decline than anything else.

I know you hate Durham CCC because of your perception that they killed your beloved Senior League, but it simply isn’t true.

 

[SAFC2403]

Mods can we have an instant ban anyone using the words “senior league” and probably “Jonny come lately clubs” while your at it??

Hasn’t been used yet but getting in there before it is used

 

[robkitchuk]

Anyway. Moving on from the well-trodden path.

Looks like been a competitive season again. With Boldon, Brandon, Esh Winning and South Shields all pushing at the top of Division 1.

 

[wicketkeeper]

People are now more mobile than ever before. More cars per family etc. again nothing to do with nepl or cricket in general.

You’re talking shite yet again sitting there with your rose tinted specs on

People are now more mobile than ever before. More cars per family etc. again nothing to do with nepl or cricket in general.

You’re talking shite yet again sitting there with your rose tinted specs on

All the players had cqrs then. They just played for their local clubs.
Spectators knew the players . Worked and socialised with them watched them progress through u 13 u15 u 18.
Players stayed at the same club for years . Now.........

 

[Reedie8610]

All the players had cqrs then. They just played for their local clubs.
Spectators knew the players . Worked and socialised with them watched them progress through u 13 u15 u 18.
Players stayed at the same club for years . Now.........

And we had a black n white tv n no pubs on Sunday, life’s moved on

 

[minty]

Local cricket is doing reasonably well in these different times in the North East and it think the current structues have assisted that

Imagine a few years back if a senior league team couldn't get a second team together, they would have been thrown out the league and started at the very bottom again. At least now, teams can miss a season or two is struggling for numbers.

Around paying players, this has happened since the 1990's and most clubs started with 1 or 2 and then it has risen over the years. As long as clubs can afford it and don't neglect their facilities or junior set up's, I see no harm

 

[Eggman]

All the players had cqrs then. They just played for their local clubs.
Spectators knew the players . Worked and socialised with them watched them progress through u 13 u15 u 18.
Players stayed at the same club for years . Now.........

I suppose you were happy to see Wearmouth and North Durham anchored at the bottom on an annual basis, while better teams like Hetton Lyons, Crook etc couldn't progress from so called 'lesser' leagues ?

 

[badger55]

I started playing "senior cricket" in the early 70's, and, yes, there were "paid" players. You were allowed a "professional" but some clubs did pay more than one player.
The sad thing nowadays is that some clubs are paying players, just to get 11 players on the field !
Understand paying to get promoted, and even to avoid relegation.....but just to get a team out on a Saturday ?
Also some very ordinary cricketers demanding large amounts of money these days. You can see the mercenaries clearly, moving from club to club, every season.

 

[wicketkeeper]

I suppose you were happy to see Wearmouth and North Durham anchored at the bottom on an annual basis, while better teams like Hetton Lyons, Crook etc couldn't progress from so called 'lesser' leagues ?

Funny because I remember playing against Hetton Lyons in the Senior League.

Local cricket is doing reasonably well in these different times in the North East and it think the current structues have assisted that

Imagine a few years back if a senior league team couldn't get a second team together, they would have been thrown out the league and started at the very bottom again. At least now, teams can miss a season or two is struggling for numbers.

Around paying players, this has happened since the 1990's and most clubs started with 1 or 2 and then it has risen over the years. As long as clubs can afford it and don't neglect their facilities or junior set up's, I see no harm

You are talking about a situation that never happened.
No senior league team were unable to get a seond team out. Now I wonder why that was.

 

[NorthCountryBoy]

Funny because I remember playing against Hetton Lyons in the Senior League.

You are talking about a situation that never happened.
No senior league team were unable to get a seond team out. Now I wonder why that was.

Because cricket was a far bigger sport then. Next.

 

[Eggman]

Funny because I remember playing against Hetton Lyons in the Senior League.

It might be 'funny' to you, but it wasn't for them.

They were promised a place in the DSL which was then retracted by the lovely DSL committee, in 1989.

As they'd resigned from the Coast League they had to move into the Durham County League for a few years before another vacancy came up. This was probably when Durham Academy joined in about 1996 or 97 and they needed to rebalance the numbers (otherwise they possibly might still have been waiting)

That kind of crap officialdom from your beloved DSL is exactly why nobody else sheds any tears at it's demise.

A horrible closed shop ..... until it suited them not to be

 

[SAFC2403]

It might be 'funny' to you, but it wasn't for them.

They were promised a place in the DSL which was then retracted by the lovely DSL committee, in 1989.

As they'd resigned from the Coast League they had to move into the Durham County League for a few years before another vacancy came up. This was probably when Durham Academy joined in about 1996 or 97 and they needed to rebalance the numbers (otherwise they possibly might still have been waiting)

That kind of crap officialdom from your beloved DSL is exactly why nobody else sheds any tears at it's demise.

A horrible closed shop ..... until it suited them not to be

Another who has hit the nail on the head - what a bunch of arrogant arseholes the senior league were - better off without them imo - teams can find their levels now and move through the durham league as they wish without being told "they arent good enough for us".

fuck the senior league.

 

[wicketkeeper]

Another who has hit the nail on the head - what a bunch of arrogant arseholes the senior league were - better off without them imo - teams can find their levels now and move through the durham league as they wish without being told "they arent good enough for us".

fuck the senior league.

A lot of bitterness and envy in this post

It might be 'funny' to you, but it wasn't for them.

They were promised a place in the DSL which was then retracted by the lovely DSL committee, in 1989.

As they'd resigned from the Coast League they had to move into the Durham County League for a few years before another vacancy came up. This was probably when Durham Academy joined in about 1996 or 97 and they needed to rebalance the numbers (otherwise they possibly might still have been waiting)
hye

It might be 'funny' to you, but it wasn't for them.

They were promised a place in the DSL which was then retracted by the lovely DSL committee, in 1989.

As they'd resigned from the Coast League they had to move into the Durham County League for a few years before another vacancy came up. This was probably when Durham Academy joined in about 1996 or 97 and they needed to rebalance the numbers (otherwise they possibly might still have been waiting)

That kind of crap officialdom from your beloved DSL is exactly why nobody else sheds any tears at it's demise.

A horrible closed shop ..... until it suited them not to be

They joined the Durham Senior League in 2000 and finished runners up in their first season.

Another who has hit the nail on the head - what a bunch of arrogant arseholes the senior league were - better off without them imo - teams can find their levels now and move through the durham league as they wish without being told "they arent good enough for us".

fuck the senior league

Better off without them- I suggest you look at the deterioration of the local league cricket in Durham since they were destroyed for supporting their members.

Another who has hit the nail on the head - what a bunch of arrogant arseholes the senior league were - better off without them imo - teams can find their levels now and move through the durham league as they wish without being told "they arent good enough for us".

fuck the senior league.

They had a lot to be arrgant about- Most of the Durham minor counties team came from their ranks for years - destroyed by petty men whose only thought was Durham and no thoughts for club cricket.

 

[Voice of fair play]

This argument becoming a bit silly now.

There is no doubt the quality in the senior league was miles superior than it is now, but that has nothing at all to do with what the league was called and everything to do with a different era less distractions and more people playing cricket.

It was better in them days when people played for their own village and own team and did not swan about from team to team to get more money, but again that was a different era nothing to do with what the league was called.

Lastly and most importantly where the senior league were completely out of order and cannot be defended is the fact they stopped progressive teams developing and progressing

It was beyond ridiculous teams like North Durham and Wearmouth propped up the senior league year on year yet others teams who were clearly better were blocked moving up.

Went to a few cup ties when senior league teams played coast league sides and while the senior sides were in the majority of times better sides they were at times looking down at coast league sides for been in a inferior standard league.

Yet when the coast league side went about doing something to address that and move up the leagues they were blocked!!!

 

[wicketkeeper]

This argument becoming a bit silly now.

There is no doubt the quality in the senior league was miles superior than it is now, but that has nothing at all to do with what the league was called and everything to do with a different era less distractions and more people playing cricket.

It was better in them days when people played for their own village and own team and did not swan about from team to team to get more money, but again that was a different era nothing to do with what the league was called.

Lastly and most importantly where the senior league were completely out of order and cannot be defended is the fact they stopped progressive teams developing and progressing

It was beyond ridiculous teams like North Durham and Wearmouth propped up the senior league year on year yet others teams who were clearly better were blocked moving up.

Went to a few cup ties when senior league teams played coast league sides and while the senior sides were in the majority of times better sides they were at times looking down at coast league sides for been in a inferior standard league.

Yet when the coast league side went about doing something to address that and move up the leagues they were blocked!!!

In the 50 years i knew the Senior League only those two teams you mentioned folded. This is because the Senior league supported their teams. If a team faces relegation they stop playing young players and start paying out money they cant afford causing young players to leave and clubs to bankrupt themselves. Both of these factors are fatal for club.

 

[Voice of fair play]

In the 50 years i knew the Senior League only those two teams you mentioned folded. This is because the Senior league supported their teams. If a team faces relegation they stop playing young players and start paying out money they cant afford causing young players to leave and clubs to bankrupt themselves. Both of these factors are fatal for club.

Surely that principle applies all clubs in all leagues, and if teams are stopped from progressing that principle applies to all clubs as players would leave that club to go to higher league.

Unless you saying only senior league clubs mattered!!

 

[wicketkeeper]

Surely that principle applies all clubs in all leagues, and if teams are stopped from progressing that principle applies to all clubs as players would leave that club to go to higher league.

Unless you saying only senior league clubs mattered!!

It does but its local village cricket not professional football.

Players leave now to join NEPL so its no different in that respect.
Only difference is its less entertaining, less competitive and much much more pretentious.
And much less linked to the local community.

 

[Voice of fair play]

It does but its local village cricket not professional football.

Players leave now to join NEPL so its no different in that respect.
Only difference is its less entertaining, less competitive and much much more pretentious.
And much less linked to the local community.

It’s certainly much more pretentious absolutely in full agreement there!

But it’s still indefensible in any era at any time that a club could put in the hard work and dedication to build their club up and then be denied progression totally irrespective of the quality of their side.

That’s simply wrong from any angle you want to look at it from.

 

[minty]

It’s certainly much more pretentious absolutely in full agreement there!

But it’s still indefensible in any era at any time that a club could put in the hard work and dedication to build their club up and then be denied progression totally irrespective of the quality of their side.

That’s simply wrong from any angle you want to look at it from.

Did the senior league not have a criteria?

 

[Stattos child]

I’m a massive senior league fan and have supported it on here in the past
You reflect over a time and a closed shop is not a good thing
Participation across the country is down but where I think the pyramid has not helped us is in terms of younger players, when there was no relegation they were given time to develop, now average players in lower leagues being paid which removes this opportunity and adds to the demise of junior teams. Players always got paid but normally only in top leagues not leagues 5 and 6
Pyramids are good for club development but if it existed in 92 at a county level would Durham exist as we know it or would another southern minor county have replaced us
Remember the initial start of premier league was not based on finishing position so teams in that league (who joined at start) now have gone from strength to strength despite being mid table in their leagues the season before , was that fair?