Gelan
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Alan Partridge
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Of course you’d be defending him.Like Sweden?
Says the forum Psychologist
Gelan
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Just your biased viewpoint, for there is no way you can define such charicteristics by a few posts on a forum...if that were true, I'd be in police custody (see obesity fix thread)
I'm not a Barrister, though Brandon said I'd claimed to be one...the imagination is a wonderful thing.
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Ember
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Sky News have carried out a statistical analysis of excess deaths for 2020 and 2021 which is the only true way to get to the impact of COVID-19. They used all data sources including ONS.
Their summary: "Take an average of the mortality rate over these two years and we have never seen as big a deterioration since 1940/41.
And you have to go back to WWI and the Spanish Flu to find another period of two or more years which were all far worse the preceding five-year average."
And that is taking into account the saving grace of the vaccines and modern medicine and ignoring the impact of long Covid.
Link to their analysis here:
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Their summary: "Take an average of the mortality rate over these two years and we have never seen as big a deterioration since 1940/41.
And you have to go back to WWI and the Spanish Flu to find another period of two or more years which were all far worse the preceding five-year average."
And that is taking into account the saving grace of the vaccines and modern medicine and ignoring the impact of long Covid.
Link to their analysis here:
COVID-19: Four different death tolls, but scale of tragedy depends on which numbers you choose
There are various different ways of measuring the impact of the pandemic, one of the worst periods for mortality in modern history - but the scale of the tragedy depends on which number you choose and what you are counting.
www.google.com
Gelan
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The average age nowadays plays a big part. When the Chinese flu hit in 1969 / 70 the average age was 70 plus people were fitter, so beggars the question "If the Chinese flu made an appearence next winter, would the death toll be more than 82,000.Sky News have carried out a statistical analysis of excess deaths for 2020 and 2021 which is the only true way to get to the impact of COVID-19. They used all data sources including ONS.
Their summary: "Take an average of the mortality rate over these two years and we have never seen as big a deterioration since 1940/41.
And you have to go back to WWI and the Spanish Flu to find another period of two or more years which were all far worse the preceding five-year average."
And that is taking into account the saving grace of the vaccines and modern medicine and ignoring the impact of long Covid.
Link to their analysis here:
COVID-19: Four different death tolls, but scale of tragedy depends on which numbers you choose
There are various different ways of measuring the impact of the pandemic, one of the worst periods for mortality in modern history - but the scale of the tragedy depends on which number you choose and what you are counting.
The answer is a resounding yes.
Alan Partridge
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What on Earth are you talking about?
Gelan
Winger
Drop the agenda's and suspicion and you'll get me.
DoctorMick
Striker
Stop talking in riddles and trying to act way more intellectual than you actually are and people might “get you”.
Alan Partridge
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Again I’ll ask, what on Earth are you talking about. Stop the obfuscation and just get to the point.
Gelan
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You're a riot man
Ember
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With the advances in medical treatment since 1969, and if lockdowns and vaccines were implemented for it in the same way as they have been for coronavirus then your "Chinese flu" might only kill a few thousand if it were to occur next winter and the following year. Covid 19 has been much worse than any flu (bar the Spanish flu) and that it not even considering the effects of long Covid.
Gelan
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Long Covid done my lungs for a year...but I am very old.
ps. There's no evidence that restrictions saved lives...we have to wait until it's all over for those numbers to be crunched.
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faith brothers
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Well I know a few healthy people including a runner who it did affect.
Mackem DJ
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Eric gates hair
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Nah it's a different wum but the same agenda
This one is far more subtle and insidious than oldie
Super Mario
Central Defender
So 17000 people died of a virus who would almost definitely not have done, then you have to consider the people with underlying illness but would also not have died without the virus, it just goes to show how dangerous this virus could have been had we not locked the country down and developed a vaccine, we'd be absolutely fucked by now. Economy would be in tatters and the mood of the world would be very different.
Floyd
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I never mentioned the year.
Fail. What was untrue?
Stalker.
Ur mental. What is it with u & ‘links‘? U Either disbelieve ONS figures or think I’ve mistaken them. Which is it? Again, put up or stfu.I'm must say I'm surprised. I thought the ONS always released their data with CAPITALISED WORDS in the text for emphasis.
Just waiting for his linky to check.
Where have I ‘tried to make our’ that?
Honestly man...
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What did you mean byvthis
17,371
UK Office for National Statistics @ONS Freedom of Information request: TOTAL deaths in England & Wales from COVID-19 with NO OTHER UNDERLYING CAUSES 17,371
www.readytogo.net
Sorry, I'll do it in your txt spk language
Wht u mn by tis
17,371
UK Office for National Statistics @ONS Freedom of Information request: TOTAL deaths in England & Wales from COVID-19 with NO OTHER UNDERLYING CAUSES 17,371
www.readytogo.net
DoctorMick
Striker
By Christ, you’re dumb as a post!
You said:
“TOTAL deaths in England & Wales from COVID-19 with NO OTHER UNDERLYING CAUSES
17,371”
That’s incorrect, the total is higher. You presented the total for 2020, completely ignoring the deaths from 2021.
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