3 people shot in London

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I would blame the communities that have fostered and ignored these developments. Also, the immigration of lots of children from some dubious shitholes.



Why not blame? Somebody is responsible.
Well, several British Govenments and their immigration policy starting with Mr Blair.
 
So the drugs trade is because rents have gone up?

Is this violence due to the drugs trade though? It seems to me that gang culture isn't about commodities and making money any more and all about someone disrepecting you bruv etc. At least they used to make a decent living out of it. These all seem to be living with their mams in high rise estates.
 
depends if you are a 13 year old black kid in south London who isn't that good academically or good at sport.

It may be the rational choice to get through your youth.
And that’s all that’s on offer to kids is it? Do you not get white kids who are academically poor and bad at sports? There’s a million mad one things a kid can do rather than join a gang.

Just stay off my patch bro
Are you axing (asking in gang speak) me honky? I’ll stick you
 
Oh and I lived in London for a year and didn't get shot once. I did get racially abused by white young uns though as was sitting near East European immigrants on the night bus and said young uns couldn't understand my accent.
 
Is this violence due to the drugs trade though? It seems to me that gang culture isn't about commodities and making money any more and all about someone disrepecting you bruv etc. At least they used to make a decent living out of it. These all seem to be living with their mams in high rise estates.

you could be right. Something has gone horribly wrong or it may be just media hype.

And that’s all that’s on offer to kids is it? Do you not get white kids who are academically poor and bad at sports? There’s a million mad one things a kid can do rather than join a gang.
Yes there is.
 
Oh and I lived in London for a year and didn't get shot once. I did get racially abused by white young uns though as was sitting near East European immigrants on the night bus and said young uns couldn't understand my accent.
i get that from sneery londoners. i might write an opinion piece for the guardian explaining my struggle as a white straight northerner.
 
i get that from sneery londoners. i might write an opinion piece for the guardian explaining my struggle as a white straight northerner.

The struggle is real brother. I was in my local at the time (The Woodman near Highgate tube) and tried to talk to these lads after Man Utd had scored a cracking goal in the Champions League. They looked at me like I'd insulted their Nana's and when I asked what the problem was, I was informed "you're Norvern". I nearly chinned the cock.
Had to walk up the big hill for a new local after that.
 
i get that from sneery londoners. i might write an opinion piece for the guardian explaining my struggle as a white straight northerner.
I'd enjoy that read.

The struggle is real brother. I was in my local at the time (The Woodman near Highgate tube) and tried to talk to these lads after Man Utd had scored a cracking goal in the Champions League. They looked at me like I'd insulted their Nana's and when I asked what the problem was, I was informed "you're Norvern". I nearly chinned the cock.
Had to walk up the big hill for a new local after that.
There's a pub on the night bus? No wonder there's bother.
 
Is the OP a WUM or something? Calling London filthy, I can't agree. When I see the tragic amounts of litter swirling around in Sunderland city centre, I fail to see his point. I'm not downbeat about at all Sunderland, but I'd hope it was more like London to be completely honest.
 
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