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starting back on my EC stack today, might hoy some clen in anarl. You coffee drinkers make me sick. I'm having a coffee right now.
 
Normally the issue is motivation, the sole reason why most people think "bollocks to it" and don't bother.

I don't see a problem with people taking something to kick them up the arse. Along with half the population I cant function in the morning without a cup of coffee, doesn't mean there's something wrong with me.

Exactly. I often go to the gym at 6:30am after playing football till 11pm the night before, its ridiculously hard to get up at 5:45am with just over 5 hours sleep to go and be motivated to train.
 
Normally the issue is motivation, the sole reason why most people think "bollocks to it" and don't bother.

I don't see a problem with people taking something to kick them up the arse. Along with half the population I cant function in the morning without a cup of coffee, doesn't mean there's something wrong with me.

A cup of coffee is hardly a mix of stimulants such as Jack3d, where you don't even know the dose of the said stimulants that you're taking. I take caffeine several times a week usually, but when people are taking a concoction of stimulants, in unknown dosages, there's definitely issues.
 
BUMP

Running low on the stuff and in need of a alternative, any got any suggestions?

I've heard pulse is good from MP.
 
I know a lad not much older than me (he's 23 I believe) who is now on heart meds after overusing this stuff. Be seriously careful with it!
 
fuck using this stuff, went to the gym with a lad who was on this on Friday, couldn't stop itching his face, its boarder line illegal. My regular gym partner is on assault, bit less intensity but still does the job
 
fuck using this stuff, went to the gym with a lad who was on this on Friday, couldn't stop itching his face, its boarder line illegal. My regular gym partner is on assault, bit less intensity but still does the job

Yes, he would of been itching his face due to the beta-alanine, which is a perfectly safe ingredient.
 
:confused: think you missed my point, itching the face is fine, the other ingredients within the supplement arent....

It seemed like you we're attributing the itching of the face to some sort of harmful ingredient, I was simply pointing out it wasn't. Also the main issue with Jack3d is the mega-dosing of 1,3. Most of the other ingredients are perfectly safe.
 
It seemed like you we're attributing the itching of the face to some sort of harmful ingredient, I was simply pointing out it wasn't. Also the main issue with Jack3d is the mega-dosing of 1,3. Most of the other ingredients are perfectly safe.

nope merely stating a fact that could put some first time users or people who have just started taking supplements off.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...ment-banned-Britain-fears-lethal-effects.html - think the main issue is that is banned
 
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Yep, 1,3 is the issue. Mega-dosing it alongside other stimulants such as caffeine is also a big no-no. Sometimes I need a bit of a kick-up the arse before training, but consistently abusing Jack3d (which like most pre-workouts is overpriced) is retarded imo. Enjoy having stim-dick :lol:
 
Yep, 1,3 is the issue. Mega-dosing it alongside other stimulants such as caffeine is also a big no-no. Sometimes I need a bit of a kick-up the arse before training, but consistently abusing Jack3d (which like most pre-workouts is overpriced) is retarded imo. Enjoy having stim-dick :lol:

straight black coffee should be enough imo.
 
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