Tories tearing each other apart

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Sir Lancelot said:
Those houses were never affordable except in some champagne socialists head. They have zero understanding of the working class and it is really pathetic to see any educated, middle class person claiming that Labour represents their working class roots.

Looking at your bottom graph it almost appears that reductions in social security spending virtually lead into a recession. I take hope from the fact that even during subsequent recessions social security spending continues to have a downward trend compared to the peaks during the 60s and 70s.
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Those are percentage increase so welfare spending has always gone up in real terms, it's just the rate of the increase that has changed. The bulk of that will be pensions of course.

It's funny how social housing was affordable for decades before councils were forced to sell off their stocks.
 


Randy Ostrich said:
Those are percentage increase so welfare spending has always gone up in real terms, it's just the rate of the increase that has changed. The bulk of that will be pensions of course.

It's funny how social housing was affordable for decades before councils were forced to sell off their stocks.
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Exactly, over 50% of the welfare bill is for the state pension and is ring fenced. Yet another thing the young have to pay for that the baby boomers didnt.
 
Harry Angstrom said:
I see. I thought you meant he hadn't got involved at all.
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Im not sure it would be possible to make zero comment on it. What he has done in the stuff I have seen has give a measured and non apocalyptic view of the situation, not as exciting as predicting Jack boots on the Mall but probably far nearer the truth. Doesnt make great headlines on the front of the Mail though ha ha
 
Bagpuss said:
Im not sure it would be possible to make zero comment on it. What he has done in the stuff I have seen has give a measured and non apocalyptic view of the situation, not as exciting as predicting Jack boots on the Mall but probably far nearer the truth. Doesnt make great headlines on the front of the Mail though ha ha
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I have read nothing and heard nothing of what he has said.
 
Harry Angstrom said:
I have read nothing and heard nothing of what he has said.
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Google, there is loads. The usual suspects obviously not reporting it because he has said nowt particularly controversial and he wasnt wearing the wrong coloured tie.
 
janiep said:
He talks of EU-driven labour law protections and environment protections, both of which are fair points, but that's all he talks about.
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Why would a labour government independent of Europe not be capable of doing more? Why would a socialist party want to saddle itself with this capitalist, federalist club?
 
Harry Angstrom said:
Why would a labour government independent of Europe not be capable of doing more? Why would a socialist party want to saddle itself with this capitalist, federalist club?
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This is the bit I don't get. If we want labour and environmental protections, why can't a UK government legislate of its own accord?
 
Harry Angstrom said:
Why would a labour government independent of Europe not be capable of doing more? Why would a socialist party want to saddle itself with this capitalist, federalist club?
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You need to ask Corbyn not me mate, he's now pro EU so one would like to think he can answer.
 
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