Tories tearing each other apart

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We will never have an early election. It may have escaped your notice but we moved to fixed term governments some time ago. All parliaments in future, regardless of party, will last for five years, because that is now the fixed term.
 
It's about the only good thing about this whole referendum 'debate' - watching the Tory in-fighting. They're going to be in a mess for a long time after the vote, whether it's in or out so, even with Labour's own renegade MPs creating trouble for Corbyn at every opportunity, I don't believe a Tory victory at the next election is the foregone conclusion the media would like us to think it is.
 
Long may this continue, the bitterness in which they are laying into each other suggests that the wounds they are opening up are unlikely to be healed any time soon.....Early election on the cards imho. Sorry the link is from twatbook, cant find the film anywhere else.


It just so happens Labour are in such a mess that even a divided Tory party look infinitely more electable to the floaters in the South East
 
Exception is two thirds of parliament voting for dissolution. This is not going to happen. OP is like a stuck record.

"It is possible for a vote of no confidence to succeed where there is a minority government, a small majority or where there are internal party splits. Where there is a minority government, the government may seek agreements or pacts with minor parties in order to remain in office.

Despite their importance to the British constitution, for a long time the rules surrounding motions of no confidence were dictated by convention. However, since the Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011, a vote of no confidence means the government has 14 days in which to win a vote of confidence, or a general election is held."

So it doesnt need two thirds, they simply have to lose a vote of no confidence and not win a vote of confidence again within 14 days.....So lets assume that the campaign continues to be as bitter as it is and continues to create deeply bitter splits between both the back benches and indeed even best friends on the front benches.

Say that the out campaign were to win. After that win Cameron and Osborne refuse to resign and the out campaign no longer have faith that the person who led the in campaign and slagged them off from continuing as PM to admin. The want Boris and Govey boy to lead the party. In the end they may force that vote of no confidence to force an election in an attempt to get rid of Cameron etc.
 
"It is possible for a vote of no confidence to succeed where there is a minority government, a small majority or where there are internal party splits. Where there is a minority government, the government may seek agreements or pacts with minor parties in order to remain in office.

Despite their importance to the British constitution, for a long time the rules surrounding motions of no confidence were dictated by convention. However, since the Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011, a vote of no confidence means the government has 14 days in which to win a vote of confidence, or a general election is held."

So it doesnt need two thirds, they simply have to lose a vote of no confidence and not win a vote of confidence again within 14 days.....So lets assume that the campaign continues to be as bitter as it is and continues to create deeply bitter splits between both the back benches and indeed even best friends on the front benches.

Say that the out campaign were to win. After that win Cameron and Osborne refuse to resign and the out campaign no longer have faith that the person who led the in campaign and slagged them off from continuing as PM to admin. The want Boris and Govey boy to lead the party. In the end they may force that vote of no confidence to force an election in an attempt to get rid of Cameron etc.

Cameron has already said he won't be standing for a third term.

They could get rid of him earlier by forcing a leadership election.

Why on earth would they vote no confidence in their own party and risk losing their seats in a general election election (whether by vote or deselection by the party)?

The only circumstance I could see this happening is if the rebels left to join UKIP or create their own party which is highly unlikely.
 
May will take over, both sides of the Tories have toxic people in charge. They'll still win an election against labour even while in civil war as the hatchet would be buried for a GE.

The worse thing was the fact govt depts aren't answering questions sent by MPs. A worrying trend if they are withholding information deliberately
 
It's about the only good thing about this whole referendum 'debate' - watching the Tory in-fighting. They're going to be in a mess for a long time after the vote, whether it's in or out so, even with Labour's own renegade MPs creating trouble for Corbyn at every opportunity, I don't believe a Tory victory at the next election is the foregone conclusion the media would like us to think it is.
It is with that farce of a Labour leader
 
Cameron has already said he won't be standing for a third term.

They could get rid of him earlier by forcing a leadership election.

Why on earth would they vote no confidence in their own party and risk losing their seats in a general election election (whether by vote or deselection by the party)?

The only circumstance I could see this happening is if the rebels left to join UKIP or create their own party which is highly unlikely.

Has happened before.

It doesn't matter how much infighting goes on in the Tories. When it comes to the ballot box the general public will trust them over Corbyn's labour every single time.

If your election strategy is based around praying the other side implodes then it is utter dogshit.

Nah, them scrapping is just a bonus.
 
It's about the only good thing about this whole referendum 'debate' - watching the Tory in-fighting. They're going to be in a mess for a long time after the vote, whether it's in or out so, even with Labour's own renegade MPs creating trouble for Corbyn at every opportunity, I don't believe a Tory victory at the next election is the foregone conclusion the media would like us to think it is.

Unless Corbyn changes tack and starts relating to the whole of the Labour movement then I truly believe that he won't have the backing to win the next GE. The time is now for Labour to capitalise on the Tory disarray and they just aren't doing it. I blame Corbyn totally for this!
 
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