World Cup squad

Discussion in 'Cricket' started by chunkylover53, Apr 15, 2019.

  1. due to be named today I think. But unlimited changes for a month, which basically makes it pointless

    Roy
    Bairstow
    Hales
    Root
    Morgan
    Buttler
    Stokes
    Ali
    Rashid
    Woakes
    Wood
    Archer
    Willey
    Plunkett

    And then probably Denly

    Oz have picked Warner and Smith
     
  2. The Rat

    The Rat Striker

    Don't think Archer is gonna be in the original 15, he will be in the 17 man squad for Pakistan, with a few others like Jordan etc when others are rested, but baring injury will then be put in the 15

    Tom Curran will be in

    My money is on Willey or Plunkett missing out on Archer, seems to be the way its heading, the cricket media are petty well connected and close.

    I think that'd be wrong mind, Curran should be left out.
     
  3. Seems we have plenty to select from....of those on the fringes Archer is looking pretty good in the IPL, (although his team are up and down), Denly has played one game in the IPL and got a first baller, Sam Curran is performing ok and is a regular in his team.

    Like others I don't think they will be able to resist the temptation of picking Archer, probably at the expense of Plunkett
     
  4. I would have Archer in too, probably a little harsh on whoever drops out for him.

    However this is the World Cup, you pick yout best squad/side above anything else.

    And Archer is good enough to be in imo.
     
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  5. Ageing trundler

    Ageing trundler Central Defender

    Archer would be in my XI.
     
  6. Would pain me to see Archer picked at this stage ahead of someone English.
     
  7. mackemmover94

    mackemmover94 Goalkeeper

    Oh wow..
     
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  8. pavarotti1980

    pavarotti1980 Midfield

    Well lets hope they pick an English player then.

    Archer all the way for me. What with his English father and British passport.




    You absolute muppet
     
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  9. And his 3 appearances for WI U19's and the ECB conveniently moving the residency goalposts so he can qualify in time for the world cup :lol:
     
  10. pavarotti1980

    pavarotti1980 Midfield

    And despite all that he is still English :lol::lol:.

    Better go back to the drawing board
     
  11. Are you seriously suggesting someone born and raised in Barbados for 18 years is English?
     
  12. pavarotti1980

    pavarotti1980 Midfield

    yes as thats his nationality.

    Jason Roy - Born in South Africa
    Eoin Morgan - Born in Ireland
    Ben Stokes - Born in New Zealand
     
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  13. Ageing trundler

    Ageing trundler Central Defender

    Archer is both British and Barbadian. Rules meant he couldn't represent England for x amount of years having played for WI u-19s.
     
  14. Can argue that both Stokes and Roy had their cricketing educations in this country so to speak (Roy moved here when he was 10, Stokes 12). Depends how flexible you want to be on the ruling, it's gone on for years I accept, but this Archer thing does make me uncomfortable, particularly given that the residency rules changed more or less to get him in the world cup squad.
     
  15. pavarotti1980

    pavarotti1980 Midfield

    Or maybe just in line with the ICC regulations which are 3 years residency and also the fact that ICC dont regard U19s as international matches either
    https://pulse-static-files.s3.amazo...gibility-Regulations-amended-23-Nov-2017-.pdf

    So in reality the ECB are late to the game in standardising the residency rules
     
  16. If that's the rules then fair enough, just a bit uncomfortable with it all tbh.
     
  17. pavarotti1980

    pavarotti1980 Midfield

    What is there to feel uncomfortable about?

    He is English, he has an English passport, he meets the ECB and ICC rules regarding residency which are aligned for consistency.

    I would agree if it was someone with no connection to the UK (no parentage etc) but this is a completely different.
     
  18. He's an English resident, he's half English at best by blood and has been born and raised in the West Indies, as well as playing for their youth sides. In the eyes of the ICC he's English fair enough, but he's not really English, is he?
     
  19. Ageing trundler

    Ageing trundler Central Defender

    I've no issue at all with people who are British at birth representing us if all they've done is play for another nation at junior level. Olivier on the other hand would be different.
     
  20. pavarotti1980

    pavarotti1980 Midfield

    He is British full stop. That is by virtue of his parentage and this is backed up by the passport he has. They dont just hand them out like confetti.

    Likewise Ben Stokes, Had the majority of his childhood in New Zealand with a Kiwi father. Therefore using your argument he's "not really English" either. Are you comfortable with him representing England and being vice-captain?
    Maybe his Sussex team mate Chris Jordan shouldnt have played for England either. Born in Bardados too. Both parents were born in Bardados too, but his grandparents were British passport holders
     
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