Work dilemma

harmy

Midfield
Need a bit advice

I’ve worked at my company for ten years nearly. I’m the longest serving engineer in the department. I have 3 fellow engineers who I work alongside. 1 is newish by about 6 months. Anyway before he started I found out how much salary was in offer. . It was advertised as 30-33k. This was potentially 5k more than me. Lad started and told me how much he was on prior to arriving suggesting he was on 33k.
Went and had it out with my gaffer who said he would get me the same etc. Low and behold didn’t get the big payrise and got the big standard 2.5%. I’ve had to train the new guy up and also had to show the other 2 over the years the same training etc.

Now I’ve found out another engineer s job has came up in another department which I quite fancy. But the job has no salary advertised.
Do I ask hr how much the salary is?
Do I ask my current boss would he mind if I went for the job?
My next move is critical for my family etc. So do I stick at this place or move on to somewhere else where I can expect salary’s of over 34/35k.
 

woodlebert

Striker
Ask HR what the salary bracket is and if you go for it, aim for more than you want and you’ll either get it or settle for a bit lower (but still above or equal to what you actually want)

That’s fucking rotten from your boss. If they can pay the new lad more money they can pay the longest serving employee doing the same job at least that much
 
Go to your bosses boss and tell him your boss is a if that does'nt work then try your bosses' bosses boss.

If that does'nt work then kill them all.
 

harmy

Midfield
Stinks to be fair. I can do every job in the department and constantly have to show others how to do them.

I told my boss last month I would be looking for another job.

He actually said when he told me about the shit pay rise. ‘Maybe next year’. Was even thinking of going to see the plant manager.

The senior engineer is probably on about 10k more than me. Fucking joke like.
 

Kevj

Striker
Need a bit advice

I’ve worked at my company for ten years nearly. I’m the longest serving engineer in the department. I have 3 fellow engineers who I work alongside. 1 is newish by about 6 months. Anyway before he started I found out how much salary was in offer. . It was advertised as 30-33k. This was potentially 5k more than me. Lad started and told me how much he was on prior to arriving suggesting he was on 33k.
Went and had it out with my gaffer who said he would get me the same etc. Low and behold didn’t get the big payrise and got the big standard 2.5%. I’ve had to train the new guy up and also had to show the other 2 over the years the same training etc.

Now I’ve found out another engineer s job has came up in another department which I quite fancy. But the job has no salary advertised.
Do I ask hr how much the salary is?
Do I ask my current boss would he mind if I went for the job?
My next move is critical for my family etc. So do I stick at this place or move on to somewhere else where I can expect salary’s of over 34/35k.
What discipline engineer?
 
Need a bit advice

I’ve worked at my company for ten years nearly. I’m the longest serving engineer in the department. I have 3 fellow engineers who I work alongside. 1 is newish by about 6 months. Anyway before he started I found out how much salary was in offer. . It was advertised as 30-33k. This was potentially 5k more than me. Lad started and told me how much he was on prior to arriving suggesting he was on 33k.
Went and had it out with my gaffer who said he would get me the same etc. Low and behold didn’t get the big payrise and got the big standard 2.5%. I’ve had to train the new guy up and also had to show the other 2 over the years the same training etc.

Now I’ve found out another engineer s job has came up in another department which I quite fancy. But the job has no salary advertised.
Do I ask hr how much the salary is?
Do I ask my current boss would he mind if I went for the job?
My next move is critical for my family etc. So do I stick at this place or move on to somewhere else where I can expect salary’s of over 34/35k.
It's common in a lot of industries that you get more money by moving around.

Unless you've got a great bonus, share scheme or working pattern that keeps you there then it's worth looking externally.

In the short term, speak to HR or the hiring manager about the salary range for the other job.
 

hullmackem

Striker
If they're paying the new bloke more for the same job I'd be off like a shot, go to your boss and tell him if you don't get 33k salary within a month your gone.
Yes assuming there is a job to go to. I’ve been in a similar situation, I had staff who earned more than me, so I thought fook this and left.

Not as good as the works party dilemma thread of old
Was thinking that as I opened the thread..... classic :lol::lol:
 

Mantobar

Winger
All that we are
Is all that we need to be
All that we know
Is you and machinery
We're engineers

We are your heartbeat
We are your night life
We are your low-line
We keep you alive for now
We're engineers

We are your voice
We are your blood flow
We are your eyes
We're all you need to know
We're engineers

All that we are
Is all that you'd love to be
All that we know
Is hate and machinery
We're engineers
 

Tex

Striker
It’s in their interests to give you a rise as it’s going to cost them vastly more to replace you when you factor in the time it will take to recruit
Aye but a lot of places don’t think long-term like that. They’ll have some fresh graduate with an MBA and a spreadsheet trying to squeeze as much as he can.

It’s great if people are dedicated to their employer. Better yet if your employer appreciates you and compensates accordingly. But these people are not your friends. If you’re in a job for which there is a good demand, the ONLY thing to tell your boss is that you’re not happy that junior is making more. If they don’t respond appropriately the next communication should be handing in your two weeks notice.
 

WildTurkey

Midfield
Need a bit advice

I’ve worked at my company for ten years nearly. I’m the longest serving engineer in the department. I have 3 fellow engineers who I work alongside. 1 is newish by about 6 months. Anyway before he started I found out how much salary was in offer. . It was advertised as 30-33k. This was potentially 5k more than me. Lad started and told me how much he was on prior to arriving suggesting he was on 33k.
Went and had it out with my gaffer who said he would get me the same etc. Low and behold didn’t get the big payrise and got the big standard 2.5%. I’ve had to train the new guy up and also had to show the other 2 over the years the same training etc.

Now I’ve found out another engineer s job has came up in another department which I quite fancy. But the job has no salary advertised.
Do I ask hr how much the salary is?
Do I ask my current boss would he mind if I went for the job?
My next move is critical for my family etc. So do I stick at this place or move on to somewhere else where I can expect salary’s of over 34/35k.
Imagine training some new bod who is instantly making more money for less work and less experience
 

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