Work dilemma

wasnotwas

Goalkeeper
Need a bit advice

I’ve worked at my company for ten years nearly. I’m the longest serving engineer in the department. I have 3 fellow engineers who I work alongside. 1 is newish by about 6 months. Anyway before he started I found out how much salary was in offer. . It was advertised as 30-33k. This was potentially 5k more than me. Lad started and told me how much he was on prior to arriving suggesting he was on 33k.
Went and had it out with my gaffer who said he would get me the same etc. Low and behold didn’t get the big payrise and got the big standard 2.5%. I’ve had to train the new guy up and also had to show the other 2 over the years the same training etc.

Now I’ve found out another engineer s job has came up in another department which I quite fancy. But the job has no salary advertised.
Do I ask hr how much the salary is?
Do I ask my current boss would he mind if I went for the job?
My next move is critical for my family etc. So do I stick at this place or move on to somewhere else where I can expect salary’s of over 34/35k.
Say nothing as yet, but look quietly for something else. I had my wage frozen for a few years, obsensively due to difficult market conditions with new people coming in getting far more than me. I couldn't move due to family reasons.

Not as good as the works party dilemma thread of old

Works Party dilemma!!!!!

What the fuckity fucking fuck!!! :lol:

Well done @The Mighty Mackem for one of the casiest reads ever!!! I thought @look out piano's vagina diagram was mad, but that has booted her out of the ground.
 
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Say nothing as yet, but look quietly for something else. I had my wage frozen for a few years, obsensively due to difficult market conditions with new people coming in getting far more than me. I couldn't move due to family reasons.




Works Party dilemma!!!!!

What the fuckity fucking fuck!!! :lol:

Well done @The Mighty Mackem for one of the casiest reads ever!!! I thought @look out piano's vagina diagram was mad, but that has booted her out of the ground.
Did you shag her then MM?
 

wasnotwas

Goalkeeper
Did you shag her then MM?
It's not clear from the thread whether he planted his pork, but it seems people in parts of China were cheering him on. The below post by @GK has me creased. :lol:

Works Party dilemma!!!!!

GK said:
What do you mean nationwide? Half of Western Europe, and outposts in the Peoples Republic of China are banking on you now man. This isn't about you any more. It's about them *points to crowd*, it's about hope, it's about a mans right to screw office secretaries whenever he jolly well feels like it. Walk forward, chest out, head held high, cock firmly in hand and face the unknown. It's your destiny!!!
I've just noticed the thread dates back 15 years. Class never dies. :D
 
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If you’re as critical to the department as you say then just hand your notice in imo. They’ll come round with a better offer.

As @MackneyHackem has proven nothing can go wrong with planning to tell your boss you’re leaving without having another offer on the table.
 

MackneyHackem

Midfield
If you’re as critical to the department as you say then just hand your notice in imo. They’ll come round with a better offer.

As @MackneyHackem has proven nothing can go wrong with planning to tell your boss you’re leaving without having another offer on the table.
I called the Wednesday meeting because the external recruiter told me the Friday before the contract would arrive "by Tuesday".

I'm sitting at my table and I'm looking at the offer (contract signed by them), which I chose to turn down.
 
If you fncy the otehr job I would go and have a coffee / chat with the guy that manages that bit. DO NOT ask him about salary until you understand if you want the job or not. I'd tag it on the end along with whats the flexibility like, are there any differences between the two departments...then a brief. oh btw whats the salary banding or you could have the informal chat and ask HR what the band is but they tend to tell the manager youve been asking off the record. You need to make the recruiting manager believe that this isnt about salary but about wanting a minor change of direction and that you are enthusiastic for the change of role.
Disadvantage of this is that if there's no immediately obvious point to the coffee he might think you're hitting on him. In which case, don't put out until you know the salary or that you definitely want the job.
 
I called the Wednesday meeting because the external recruiter told me the Friday before the contract would arrive "by Tuesday".

I'm sitting at my table and I'm looking at the offer (contract signed by them), which I chose to turn down.
Even though you’re now roundly hated at your current job?
 

Mackem00

Striker
If they're paying the new bloke more for the same job I'd be off like a shot, go to your boss and tell him if you don't get 33k salary within a month your gone.
This should have been done the minute he found out about the new fella's wage tbf. Complete pisstake if their jobs are the exact same.
 

safcsafc

Midfield
Say nothing as yet, but look quietly for something else. I had my wage frozen for a few years, obsensively due to difficult market conditions with new people coming in getting far more than me. I couldn't move due to family reasons.




Works Party dilemma!!!!!

What the fuckity fucking fuck!!! :lol:

Well done @The Mighty Mackem for one of the casiest reads ever!!! I thought @look out piano's vagina diagram was mad, but that has booted her out of the ground.
Just read through this.. quality! Wonder what happened after...
 

SPUFF

Striker
Ever see the documentary on Pimlico Plumbing? First of its kind wgere every staff member revealed their wage. Got nasty. Blokes were working together on 10k less. Piss poor management where often the gobshites get the rise n quiet lads dont.

A quote by Kevin Keegan.
IF YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOURE WORTH, YOURE WORTH NOTHING AT ALL.
:p
 

bonnylad

Midfield
Need a bit advice

I’ve worked at my company for ten years nearly. I’m the longest serving engineer in the department. I have 3 fellow engineers who I work alongside. 1 is newish by about 6 months. Anyway before he started I found out how much salary was in offer. . It was advertised as 30-33k. This was potentially 5k more than me. Lad started and told me how much he was on prior to arriving suggesting he was on 33k.
Went and had it out with my gaffer who said he would get me the same etc. Low and behold didn’t get the big payrise and got the big standard 2.5%. I’ve had to train the new guy up and also had to show the other 2 over the years the same training etc.

Now I’ve found out another engineer s job has came up in another department which I quite fancy. But the job has no salary advertised.
Do I ask hr how much the salary is?
Do I ask my current boss would he mind if I went for the job?
My next move is critical for my family etc. So do I stick at this place or move on to somewhere else where I can expect salary’s of over 34/35k.
From that conversation with your gaffer it's obvious he either thinks your not very good or his thinking is you're too much of a pussy to do anything about it.You know which it is, so the decision is yours find another job.
 
If you're on say £28k a year and the new fella is on £33k, you've effectively been working almost one day a week for nowt.

Hope this helps.
 
OP - Basically there was a department budget but the boss decided to give himself a whacking payrise instead of keeping you on level pegging with your associates, he is now laughing his cock off.
 

Forrest Gump

Midfield
Demand the same money or leave. That’s a piss take TBF.

Although it’s admirable giving somewhere good service, it takes a few moves to increase your base salary.
Don’t listen to this grass is my advice :lol:

Just what I was going to ask.
Reeeetio

@harmy I’d start applying for jobs see what’s going.

Mate is a director at a company who get loads of quality roles.

Pm me or I’ll pass his number on, does your family still get in the Mickey ? Me dar still gets in sat and sun afternoons.
 
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