Why is it...

[MSC]

Because you will kill people I'd you ignore it.

Il admit I'm Mr conspiracy at the best of times however I've never seen anything like this in my time on the planet the whole world is shutting down for better or worse.

Just asking a question to pass the time - Who usually benefit from financial crashes historically?

I don’t know but sure these will do ok. The like of JP Morgan, Blackrock, Goldman Sachs then just for fun check out which ones support the Trump Administration.

Not sure I trust any of them to put lives before profits or the WHO for that matter.

 

[Charlie Chimp]

Thankyou. Great listen so far. Exactly where I'm at. What a very interesting and sensible world viewpoint.

 

[AlpineExile]

Dave. There are two main ways to test. One proper way in a lab to determine viral load. Another in a shitty testing kit that identifies viral coronovirus DNA in a person. That's any coronovirus DNA. This kit isnt specific to covid19. At any given time we all have a bit of coronovirus in us. Do you not see where this is going? We are getting so many false positives its unbelievable.

Coronavirus has RNA, not DNA.

If you can't even get that right, then I question your other credentials.

 

[Thackeray]

The proper testing wont kick off cos it costs too much money.

They are talking about having a drive through testing centre at the university of Manchester for nhs staff. Which will take weeks. We are expected to carry on as normal in my workplace, well apart from the selotape on floor.

My point is we have been here before and we've come out the other side without having to shut down the planet. You've said yourself the virus has spread to the general population. So priority should be the elderly and vulnerable.

How long till we have health issues from lack of sunlight and vitamins? Or like I said before from people with mental issues. Surely we have a responsibility here also?


Sorry mate. Last word should have been test not death.

Sorry I'm not understanding. You say you're just asking a few questions that no one is answering, but you're not answering them yourself. Why is it that you think we have this unprecedented lock down if there's not so much to worry about?

 

[Charlie Chimp]

Just asking a question to pass the time - Who usually benefit from financial crashes historically?

I don’t know but sure these will do ok. The like of JP Morgan, Blackrock, Goldman Sachs then just for fun check out which ones support the Trump Administration.

Not sure I trust any of them to put lives before profits or the WHO for that matter.

Not a bad shout mate. Big Corp will love small businesses going under so they can buy them all cheap later on. In the end we'll have Amazon and another couple of corps. Wall street noticed how many CEOs of big companies were stepping down in the months leading up to this crisis. They knew it was going down.

What about these bailouts from the world bank and IMF? Trillions borrowed. I wonder who's going to be left with the bill? The money wont trickle down to us plebs unfortunately.

Dont forget bigpharma too. They'll have their snout in the trough too.

Remdesivir most promising COVID-19 drug, say researchers

A review of potential COVID-19 therapeutics revealed that the most effective are likely to be those directly targeting SARS-CoV-2.

www.drugtargetreview.com

Take this brand spanking new HIV drug owned by Gilead. Look into who their shareholders are.

Or who has the patent to this virus?

Look into patient zero or lack thereof of this pandemic. 1st case was apparently in wuhan. Not from eating bats may I add. The virus has crossed species as it only affected animals. This imo did not happen naturally and bioengineered. A conclusion that the epidemiological department of the university of Athens,Greece share.

FULL-GENOME ANALYSIS OF CORONA VIRUS HINTS AT BIOENGINEERING Full-genome evolutionary analysis of the novel corona virus (2019-nCoV) from the Department of Epidemiology of the University of Athens, Greece, rejects the hypothesis of emergence as a result of a recent recombination event and hints at possibility of bioengineering. If true this would suggest we are dealing with a man-made / man-altered / weaponised RNA virus. Conclusions of the Paper: > Again, seafood market not the source. > No considerable similarity with any of the previously characterized corona viruses. > Novel Coronavirus mutates really fast. The RNA sequences of the Virus isolated from 6 patients from the same household are different from each other. > It has similarities to bat coronavirus, but the analysis also concludes that the new Coronavirus did not originate from random recent admixture between different coronaviruses. > Has very unusual middle segment never seen before in any coronavirus. > That mystery middle segment encodes protein responsible for entry into host cells. https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.26.920249v1 COVID-19

 

[pillars of hercules]

The proper testing wont kick off cos it costs too much money.

They are talking about having a drive through testing centre at the university of Manchester for nhs staff. Which will take weeks. We are expected to carry on as normal in my workplace, well apart from the selotape on floor.

My point is we have been here before and we've come out the other side without having to shut down the planet. You've said yourself the virus has spread to the general population. So priority should be the elderly and vulnerable.

How long till we have health issues from lack of sunlight and vitamins? Or like I said before from people with mental issues. Surely we have a responsibility here also?

I actually think the government agrees with you on those points but a few weeks lockdown is nothing in the big scale of things.

They are buying time for the under prepared NHS. Nothing more, nothing less and the right strategy imo.

 

[nelford_safc]

I'm a pharmacist who's been working 80 hour weeks for last few.

The testing has been atrocious and the figures mentioned biased as owt.

Theres a reason why the government downgraded the current crisis on March 19th. Just before the lockdown.

But MSM or social media chose to ignore it as it didn't fit the fear porn narrative. Doublespeak at its best.

Everyone who thinks this lockdown is for our own benefit need to take the pill or the mandatory vaccine tptb offer us. The rest of us need to get to the streets.


The unprecedented f***ing situation we are in. Have people bot learned from the swine flu or bird flu pandemic?


Makes no sense to a closed mind sheeple. Carry on fella

Well done on making yourself a pharmacist nobody on this forum would trust in a matter of two posts. Are you saying this shite to the people who come to you for medication?

 

[pillars of hercules]

Just asking a question to pass the time - Who usually benefit from financial crashes historically?

I don’t know but sure these will do ok. The like of JP Morgan, Blackrock, Goldman Sachs then just for fun check out which ones support the Trump Administration.

Not sure I trust any of them to put lives before profits or the WHO for that matter.

ANTISEMITISM ALERT

 

[Charlie Chimp]

Coronavirus has RNA, not DNA.

If you can't even get that right, then I question your other credentials.

I was talking about the testing of the virus not the virus itself. If your gonna try and be clever at least read the subject manner in hand.

This is what I got from a mate on a medical forum.

"Here's the problem, we are testing people for any strain of a Coronavirus. Not specifically for COVID-19. There are no reliable tests for a specific COVID-19 virus. There are no reliable agencies or media outlets for reporting numbers of actual COVID-19 virus cases. This needs to be addressed first and foremost. Every action and reaction to COVID-19 is based on totally flawed data and we simply can not make accurate assessments. This is why you're hearing that most people with COVID-19 are showing nothing more than cold/flu like symptoms. That's because most Coronavirus strains are nothing more than cold/flu like symptoms. The few actual novel Coronavirus cases do have some worse respiratory responses, but still have a very promising recovery rate, especially for those without prior issues. The ‘gold standard’ in testing for COVID-19 is laboratory isolated/purified coronavirus particles free from any contaminants and particles that look like viruses but are not, that have been proven to be the cause of the syndrome known as COVID-19 and obtained by using proper viral isolation methods and controls (not the PCR that is currently being used or Serology /antibody tests which do not detect virus as such). PCR basically takes a sample of your cells and amplifies any DNA to look for ‘viral sequences’, i.e. bits of non-human DNA that seem to match parts of a known viral genome. The problem is the test is known not to work. It uses ‘amplification’ which means taking a very very tiny amount of DNA and growing it exponentially until it can be analyzed. Obviously any minute contaminations in the sample will also be amplified leading to potentially gross errors of discovery. Additionally, it’s only looking for partial viral sequences, not whole genomes, so identifying a single pathogen is next to impossible even if you ignore the other issues. The Mickey Mouse test kits being sent out to hospitals, at best, tell analysts you have some viral DNA in your cells. Which most of us do, most of the time. It may tell you the viral sequence is related to a specific type of virus – say the huge family of coronavirus. But that’s all. The idea these kits can isolate a specific virus like COVID-19 is nonsense. And that’s not even getting into the other issue – viral load. If you remember the PCR works by amplifying minute amounts of DNA. It therefore is useless at telling you how much virus you may have. And that’s the only question that really matters when it comes to diagnosing illness. Everyone will have a few virus kicking round in their system at any time, and most will not cause illness because their quantities are too small. For a virus to sicken you you need a lot of it, a massive amount of it. But PCR does not test viral load and therefore can’t determine if a osteogenesis is present in sufficient quantities to sicken you. If you feel sick and get a PCR test any random virus DNA might be identified even if they aren’t at all involved in your sickness which leads to false diagnosis. And coronavirus are incredibly common. A large percentage of the world human population will have covi DNA in them in small quantities even if they are perfectly well or sick with some other pathogen. Do you see where this is going yet?
A very high percentage of people who have become sick by other means (flu, bacterial pneumonia, anything) will have a positive PCR test for covi even if you’re doing them properly and ruling out contamination, simply because covis are so common. There are hundreds of thousands of flu and pneumonia victims in hospitals throughout the world at any one time."

Well done on making yourself a pharmacist nobody on this forum would trust in a matter of two posts. Are you saying this shite to the people who come to you for medication?

I couldn't give two shits what you think marra. Nee offense.

ANTISEMITISM ALERT

You f***ing what?

 

[MSC]

ANTISEMITISM ALERT

Eh?

 

[Charlie Chimp]

I actually think the government agrees with you on those points but a few weeks lockdown is nothing in the big scale of things.

They are buying time for the under prepared NHS. Nothing more, nothing less and the right strategy imo.

I hope so mate.

Sorry I'm not understanding. You say you're just asking a few questions that no one is answering, but you're not answering them yourself. Why is it that you think we have this unprecedented lock down if there's not so much to worry about?

Ahhh here it starts. Wanting me to give answers to something I can only theorize about making me look daft. I know that game mate.

Ok I'll bite a little.

Always follow the money.

When does governments not want more power over its people?
this new bill giving the state more powers is supposed to be for 2years. But seen as we never said boo. We'll have to put up with shutdowns like this every few year now.

 

[pillars of hercules]

Eh?

Was a joke obviously.

Merchant banks run by Jewish families or that have Jewish connections usually get the conspiracy theorists out in force

 

[Cockney Mackem]

Fuck off with your fear propaganda.

We have a f***ing police station our hands cos of a cough and high temperature.

Let me just stop you there

 

[Charlie Chimp]

Let me just stop you there

Who the fuck are you like? Gan back to your facy b and goggle box marra. Let the grown ups talk.

 

[Cockney Mackem]

Who the fuck are you like? Gan back to your facy b and goggle box marra. Let the grown ups talk.

Well, this is ironic

 

[Thackeray]

I hope so mate.


Ahhh here it starts. Wanting me to give answers to something I can only theorize about making me look daft. I know that game mate.

Ok I'll bite a little.

Always follow the money.

When does governments not want more power over its people?
this new bill giving the state more powers is supposed to be for 2years. But seen as we never said boo. We'll have to put up with shutdowns like this every few year now.

Sorry but that's not much of an answer. Follow the money where? You mentioned Amazon, are you saying Amazon has created this to take over global retail? You also mention governments. Does that mean all of the governments of the world got together to create this in order to globally curb civil liberties? Is it telling that you think that answering a perfectly reasonable request to explain your own theory would make you look daft?

 

[RestlessNatives]

A pharmacist conspiracy theorist.
It's almost as if Professional Mackem has never been away.

 

[CatRyan]

Never said anything about governments planning anything. Just about the over the top response to this problem.

It's funny how anyone not wanting to stick to the official narrative is made out to be a loon. I most certainly am not. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this.

In 2009 UK government experts wildly over-hyped dangers of swine flu — is history repeating with Covid-19?

Amidst the coronavirus lockdown, some of the claims of governments and media have been shown to be exaggerated. Ten years ago, they tried the same thing with swine flu. They haven’t learned their lessons — has the public?

www.rt.com

Christopher Hitchens

Christopher Hitchens I would listen to if he was alive to comment. Peter Hitchens is an absolute bell end.

 

[RichD]

Jesus wept

 

[PJH]

So is the conclusion here that Covid-19 is man made and released on purpose for this global economic plan, or that within a couple of months a global economic plan was formed based on the early spread of Covid-19?