What the former Corner Flag pub is to become.

Pete the Pirate

Central Defender
Much more positive than the Global Media page.
Like night and day.
Wearside whingers.

This just isn't true.




There is a certain clique of posters on here who have an axe to grind against SGM, largely due to political fears. I seen one of them is a former Echo journalist, showing how the page's ascendency is perceived (incorrectly) as a threat to the status quo.

But that sort of reaction isn't surprising, given SGM is the fastest growing media organization in Sunderland, and its social media reach is already number one.

Sure, as something new it has certainly had teething problems and its fair share of mistakes along the way, however the truth remains it has created some of the most engaging and informative articles about Sunderland and its history on the internet. To say it is all about negativity is just absurd.

As shown above, it has pushed back against the moaners on a few occasions, and it needs to be said some of the abject negativity about our city is just plain ridiculous at times.
 
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keema naan

Central Defender
This just isn't true.




There is a certain clique of posters on here who have an axe to grind against SGM, largely due to political fears. I seen one of them is a former Echo journalist, showing how the page's ascendency is perceived (incorrectly) as a threat to the status quo.

But that sort of reaction isn't surprising, given SGM is the fastest growing media organization in Sunderland, and its social media reach is already number one.

Sure, as something new it has certainly had teething problems and its fair share of mistakes along the way, however the truth remains it has created some of the most engaging and informative articles about Sunderland and its history on the internet. To say it is all about negativity is just absurd.

As shown above, it has pushed back against the moaners on a few occasions, and it needs to be said some of the abject negativity about our city is just plain ridiculous at times.
Are u on their payroll like?quite the chomp he got from you 🎣🎣🎣
 
It’s risky taking that unit as nothing has ever worked in that area
A few places like that in town that should do well but keep on failing.

What was Devinos/Proven People is a great location. Right next to the beautiful Mowbray Park and within spitting distance of Fawcett St - probably the most footfall in the city centre.

In fact, for the amount of people on Fawcett St each day, it’s unbelievable how run down most of it is. It should be thriving.
 
A few places like that in town that should do well but keep on failing.

What was Devinos/Proven People is a great location. Right next to the beautiful Mowbray Park and within spitting distance of Fawcett St - probably the most footfall in the city centre.

In fact, for the amount of people on Fawcett St each day, it’s unbelievable how run down most of it is. It should be thriving.
Never seems to be a great deal of people about even on a Saturday other than match days just passing through or people catching the bus.
 

Osklen

Midfield
Not strictly true, Nandos has been there for at least 14 years, and the closure of Frankie and Benny's was part of a national wave of closures pertaining to their losses as a whole (as opposed to being a Sunderland Centric problem).

Is that true that they closed it due to? Frankie and Benny’s still operate throughout the country therefore assume if it was in a desired location and profitable it would still operate?

Presumably they closed restaurants which were not profitable enough and/or where lease breaks allowed - looks like they had a lease break in September 2019.


 

Pete the Pirate

Central Defender
Is that true that they closed it due to? Frankie and Benny’s still operate throughout the country therefore assume if it was in a desired location and profitable it would still operate?

Presumably they closed restaurants which were not profitable enough and/or where lease breaks allowed - looks like they had a lease break in September 2019.



Aye they closed a number of them, I still seen one in London recently.

But I'll be honest, the reason its business is struggling in my opinion is because it's overpriced and shite. You can get much better for that price.
 
Aye they closed a number of them, I still seen one in London recently.

But I'll be honest, the reason its business is struggling in my opinion is because it's overpriced and shite. You can get much better for that price.

This, Frankie and Bennies is overpriced and terrible. It is awful food that’s clearly been reheated, rather than cooked fresh.
I’m surprised it stayed open as long as it did tbh

I think the venue would have been a good new location for Luciano’s, that closed due to the redevelopment there.
Lucianos shows if a restaurant is good, it will thrive in Sunderland!
 

Osklen

Midfield
Aye they closed a number of them, I still seen one in London recently.

But I'll be honest, the reason its business is struggling in my opinion is because it's overpriced and shite. You can get much better for that price.

Don’t disagree with that at all. Whilst i always thought the premises was dressed well the food left a lot to be desired and never left feeling impressed. Still think there is one in metro centre and newcastle?
 

Kingdom Bhoy

Striker
This, Frankie and Bennies is overpriced and terrible. It is awful food that’s clearly been reheated, rather than cooked fresh.
I’m surprised it stayed open as long as it did tbh

I think the venue would have been a good new location for Luciano’s, that closed due to the redevelopment there.
Lucianos shows if a restaurant is good, it will thrive in Sunderland!

Nail on the head marra.
 

Osklen

Midfield
This, Frankie and Bennies is overpriced and terrible. It is awful food that’s clearly been reheated, rather than cooked fresh.
I’m surprised it stayed open as long as it did tbh

I think the venue would have been a good new location for Luciano’s, that closed due to the redevelopment there.
Lucianos shows if a restaurant is good, it will thrive in Sunderland!

Is it not too close to Angelos which I think is affiliated. I’d imagine they’d have been encouraged to look at it as well as other properties along that run of retail,
also the former Thai Bay premises has also been available) so assume they didn’t want to relocate to this area.

Whilst I agree about Lucianos having the right offering for it’s clientele I wouldn’t be convinced it would be viable at the rents F&B’s were likely paying. That said I doubt the new Rio Brazilian Steakhouse will be paying much rent at all.
 
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TexasMackem

Striker
Nando’s is the only one that ever seems to be full

I hope it works , just think round the empire is the better place to be these days
I agree with you but there's quite a lot going on to create a cultural neighbourhood around that area mind, even though it's off the beaten path. If High Street West could be sorted out, you could link it all together with developments like the new bar/restaurant in the old JJB building and the cafe/restaurant in the old chambers building. The whole high street down to Pann's Bank seems to be going through a renaissance of sorts, apart from the old mothercare/argos/ku club area.
 

Brett

Striker
I agree with you but there's quite a lot going on to create a cultural neighbourhood around that area mind, even though it's off the beaten path. If High Street West could be sorted out, you could link it all together with developments like the new bar/restaurant in the old JJB building and the cafe/restaurant in the old chambers building. The whole high street down to Pann's Bank seems to be going through a renaissance of sorts, apart from the old mothercare/argos/ku club area.
The travel lodge closing down hasn’t helped
 

Kingdom Bhoy

Striker
I agree with you but there's quite a lot going on to create a cultural neighbourhood around that area mind, even though it's off the beaten path. If High Street West could be sorted out, you could link it all together with developments like the new bar/restaurant in the old JJB building and the cafe/restaurant in the old chambers building. The whole high street down to Pann's Bank seems to be going through a renaissance of sorts, apart from the old mothercare/argos/ku club area.

The former Mothercare/Argos site certainly needs sorting.

Is there any opening date for the Keel Square hotel yet?
 

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