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I work in stockton n av never seen a mag canny few of us like but mostly boro.
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Jasper
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Aye but no chance they’ll go down with 31 points now Hank lad.
hank williams
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If the good lord answers my prayers they will
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Well that might be because that's what happens
GordonMuchallNo1Fan
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Talk today was McClaren joining them
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Well that might be because that's what happens. Like now, for example, with your club.
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We’re not as shit as our league possession suggests, just read this in the times
Hope flickers as Barnsley rookies put up a fight
You could say Barnsley are the Norwich City of the Sky Bet Championship: praised for their progressive football, their bravery, their youthful vim and vigour; but naive, error-strewn and, languishing as they are in the drop zone, staring down the barrel of a stinging relegation.Nine days ago Barnsle
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You could say Barnsley are the Norwich City of the Sky Bet Championship: praised for their progressive football, their bravery, their youthful vim and vigour; but naive, error-strewn and, languishing as they are in the drop zone, staring down the barrel of a stinging relegation.
Nine days ago Barnsley produced the shock of the weekend, winning 3-0 at high-flying Fulham. They had beaten the same opponents 1-0 on the opening day of the season. They have twice drawn with the league leaders West Bromwich Albion. The Championship can throw up such results but the underlying statistics support a view that it would not have taken much for Barnsley’s season to have been very different.
In possession they build from the back, pass with pace and purpose. They have the eighth-highest average possession in the league — an anomaly for a team in the relegation zone since September. On Saturday, they made 101 more passes than Middlesbrough and enjoyed 56.7 per cent of the ball. They had 18 shots to Middlesbrough’s five. The 1-0 scoreline in their favour did not reflect Barnsley’s dominance.
Barnsley’s pressing is among the most intense and effective in the division. They are the highest-ranked team for “pressed sequences” and “high turnovers”, two metrics used by Opta to measure how quickly the ball is won back in the final third (Leeds United, no less, are second). Barnsley have made, by some distance, the most tackles in the division, and the third most interceptions.
All of which points to good coaching, a clearly defined system and style of play. Which should not be a surprise given that both Daniel Stendel, the former head coach, and Gerhard Struber, who replaced him in November, were recruited, in no small part, for their commitment to gegenpressing.
Struber, 43, is a former Salzburg midfielder and academy coach, and a first-team head coach of just 36 games in the top two tiers of Austrian football, with Leifering and AC Wolfsberger — who played Europa League football this season — before he moved to Yorkshire. Stendel had been Hannover 96 head coach for just 34 games before leading Barnsley to automatic promotion from League One last season. Some felt he was dismissed prematurely.
Barnsley, who have played more second-tier football than any club, are on course for a third relegation in seven seasons. The Championship is a different beast these days. Bridging the gap from League One is getting harder. So their model of data-led recruitment and developing young players is to be applauded. This is a club among whose investors, of course, is Billy Beane, the former baseball player behind the “Moneyball” concept of recruitment based on statistical data.
But here’s the rub: if the “model” had room for a streak of pragmatism, how different might Barnsley’s season have been? To prescribe the chief cause of their woe is not rocket science. Barnsley’s average starting age of 22 and 315 days this season is more than two years younger than Brentford’s, the league’s second-youngest. Nine times the opposition have been gifted a goal after an error — the third most in the division. Nine times they have lost by a one-goal margin. Saturday’s team included a 19-year-old, two 20-year-olds, two 21-year-olds and two 23-year-olds. They are a bunch of rookies.
At a recent Q&A with Struber, one supporter equated Barnsley’s approach to sending “ten apprentice plasterers out on jobs with another apprentice plasterer”. Struber knows it. “This is the challenge,” he said on Saturday. “We have the task, on the one hand, to develop young players, and on the other hand, we have to deliver results.” Some fans, however, question which is of greater importance to the owners, Chien Lee and Paul Conway, who also own Nice, the Ligue 1 club.
In the summer, Barnsley’s three best players were sold. Kieffer Moore, who scored 17 goals in League One, joined Wigan Athletic for £2.5 million. The sale of both centre halves, Ethan Pinnock and Liam Lindsay, to Brentford and Stoke City respectively, brought in another £5 million. The goalkeeper and captain, Adam Davies, joined Stoke City on a free. The spine of the team all but vanished.
After £5 million was spent on 14 new arrivals — 12 of whom are 23 or younger, none of whom had Championship experience — Conway, the American businessman and co-chairman, declared Barnsley’s transfer window their “most successful ever”. He may regret such bombast.
Patrick Schmidt, an Austrian striker who cost £ 1 million, has scored twice in 20 games. Mads Andersen, a Danish defender who cost £900,000 has, at times, been calamitous. Bambo Diaby, a defender plucked from the Belgian second tier, was suspended by the club last month after failing a drugs test.
Barnsley’s players are doing the best they can. Stendel and now Struber have proven themselves capable as coaches, motivators. They just needed a little help. Cauley Woodrow, scorer of 13 goals, and Alex Mowett, the captain, both of whom are 25, are the only players with any real Championship experience.
It is no coincidence that the Tykes have conceded three in five games since the arrival last month of Michael Sollbauer, a 29-year-old central defender with whom Struber worked at Wolfsberger. “This situation is hard for players of any age, especially for young players, but they are growing,” the excellent Sollbauer said. “After every game, and every week of training, they are getting smarter — in some situations sensing not to go for every duel, especially in the final minutes.”
Hope flickers. Just over two weeks ago Barnsley were nine points adrift; now, after two wins in a week, the gap to safety is just five points. Maybe, just maybe . . . “The atmosphere in the dressing room was always OK; right now it’s top,” Struber said. “Two weeks ago, after [the 1-0 defat to] Birmingham, it was difficult for everyone at the club. But we stayed together, we worked hard, and we believed in our style. We believe that we can stay in the league.”
Latka Gravas
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Nee fuckers gonna read all that mate.We’re not as shit as our league possession suggests, just read this in the times
Hope flickers as Barnsley rookies put up a fight
You could say Barnsley are the Norwich City of the Sky Bet Championship: praised for their progressive football, their bravery, their youthful vim and vigour; but naive, error-strewn and, languishing as they are in the drop zone, staring down the barrel of a stinging relegation.Nine days ago Barnsle
You could say Barnsley are the Norwich City of the Sky Bet Championship: praised for their progressive football, their bravery, their youthful vim and vigour; but naive, error-strewn and, languishing as they are in the drop zone, staring down the barrel of a stinging relegation.
Nine days ago Barnsley produced the shock of the weekend, winning 3-0 at high-flying Fulham. They had beaten the same opponents 1-0 on the opening day of the season. They have twice drawn with the league leaders West Bromwich Albion. The Championship can throw up such results but the underlying statistics support a view that it would not have taken much for Barnsley’s season to have been very different.
In possession they build from the back, pass with pace and purpose. They have the eighth-highest average possession in the league — an anomaly for a team in the relegation zone since September. On Saturday, they made 101 more passes than Middlesbrough and enjoyed 56.7 per cent of the ball. They had 18 shots to Middlesbrough’s five. The 1-0 scoreline in their favour did not reflect Barnsley’s dominance.
Barnsley’s pressing is among the most intense and effective in the division. They are the highest-ranked team for “pressed sequences” and “high turnovers”, two metrics used by Opta to measure how quickly the ball is won back in the final third (Leeds United, no less, are second). Barnsley have made, by some distance, the most tackles in the division, and the third most interceptions.
All of which points to good coaching, a clearly defined system and style of play. Which should not be a surprise given that both Daniel Stendel, the former head coach, and Gerhard Struber, who replaced him in November, were recruited, in no small part, for their commitment to gegenpressing.
Struber, 43, is a former Salzburg midfielder and academy coach, and a first-team head coach of just 36 games in the top two tiers of Austrian football, with Leifering and AC Wolfsberger — who played Europa League football this season — before he moved to Yorkshire. Stendel had been Hannover 96 head coach for just 34 games before leading Barnsley to automatic promotion from League One last season. Some felt he was dismissed prematurely.
Barnsley, who have played more second-tier football than any club, are on course for a third relegation in seven seasons. The Championship is a different beast these days. Bridging the gap from League One is getting harder. So their model of data-led recruitment and developing young players is to be applauded. This is a club among whose investors, of course, is Billy Beane, the former baseball player behind the “Moneyball” concept of recruitment based on statistical data.
But here’s the rub: if the “model” had room for a streak of pragmatism, how different might Barnsley’s season have been? To prescribe the chief cause of their woe is not rocket science. Barnsley’s average starting age of 22 and 315 days this season is more than two years younger than Brentford’s, the league’s second-youngest. Nine times the opposition have been gifted a goal after an error — the third most in the division. Nine times they have lost by a one-goal margin. Saturday’s team included a 19-year-old, two 20-year-olds, two 21-year-olds and two 23-year-olds. They are a bunch of rookies.
At a recent Q&A with Struber, one supporter equated Barnsley’s approach to sending “ten apprentice plasterers out on jobs with another apprentice plasterer”. Struber knows it. “This is the challenge,” he said on Saturday. “We have the task, on the one hand, to develop young players, and on the other hand, we have to deliver results.” Some fans, however, question which is of greater importance to the owners, Chien Lee and Paul Conway, who also own Nice, the Ligue 1 club.
In the summer, Barnsley’s three best players were sold. Kieffer Moore, who scored 17 goals in League One, joined Wigan Athletic for £2.5 million. The sale of both centre halves, Ethan Pinnock and Liam Lindsay, to Brentford and Stoke City respectively, brought in another £5 million. The goalkeeper and captain, Adam Davies, joined Stoke City on a free. The spine of the team all but vanished.
After £5 million was spent on 14 new arrivals — 12 of whom are 23 or younger, none of whom had Championship experience — Conway, the American businessman and co-chairman, declared Barnsley’s transfer window their “most successful ever”. He may regret such bombast.
Patrick Schmidt, an Austrian striker who cost £ 1 million, has scored twice in 20 games. Mads Andersen, a Danish defender who cost £900,000 has, at times, been calamitous. Bambo Diaby, a defender plucked from the Belgian second tier, was suspended by the club last month after failing a drugs test.
Barnsley’s players are doing the best they can. Stendel and now Struber have proven themselves capable as coaches, motivators. They just needed a little help. Cauley Woodrow, scorer of 13 goals, and Alex Mowett, the captain, both of whom are 25, are the only players with any real Championship experience.
It is no coincidence that the Tykes have conceded three in five games since the arrival last month of Michael Sollbauer, a 29-year-old central defender with whom Struber worked at Wolfsberger. “This situation is hard for players of any age, especially for young players, but they are growing,” the excellent Sollbauer said. “After every game, and every week of training, they are getting smarter — in some situations sensing not to go for every duel, especially in the final minutes.”
Hope flickers. Just over two weeks ago Barnsley were nine points adrift; now, after two wins in a week, the gap to safety is just five points. Maybe, just maybe . . . “The atmosphere in the dressing room was always OK; right now it’s top,” Struber said. “Two weeks ago, after [the 1-0 defat to] Birmingham, it was difficult for everyone at the club. But we stayed together, we worked hard, and we believed in our style. We believe that we can stay in the league.”
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I was wearing me new glasses out
He seems a top lad but fuck me that’s a new phone keypad typing all that
or a new laptop or computer keyboard
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Woodgate has been a disaster for them. He's lucky to have Gibson as his Chairman.
Ashley In!!
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Luton and Huddersfield both winning. They are in bother.
Barnsley and Wigan both won tonight as boro lost. Right in the shit now.
Barnsley and Wigan both won tonight as boro lost. Right in the shit now.
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