Strauss and his stupid ideas....

[brandon]

That’s what’s annoying me, blokes done so much for English cricket

Haven’t seen a single person questioning his playing achievements.

The difference is, some of us can compartmentalise Strauss the player, from Strauss the ECB stooge.

Just because he scored a few runs once doesn’t mean that he’s forever exempt from criticism….

If you caught him shagging your wife would you just pat him on the arse and say “No worries Straussy lad, it’s all worth it for Brisbane 2010!”

They all join the “real world” eventually but your remark is brainless because if they all did what you suggest there would be no professional cricket and we’d all have nothing to watch except club cricket on a Saturday. Great idea!

That remark is just as brainless as what you accuse them of, because it makes the assumption that nobody else would be coming up behind them to take their places if they did all sack it off.

I expect nothing better from him or them. But I am getting increasingly annoyed at people who would call themselves crickets fans, but are just shrugging their shoulders and accepting the death of the domestic game.

I wouldn’t worry about bracketing him as a ‘cricket fan’. He’s a self confessed ambivalent towards county cricket - which is why he is taking great pleasure in watching the demise of the counties.

 

[The Rat]

Haven’t seen a single person questioning his playing achievements.

The difference is, some of us can compartmentalise Strauss the player, from Strauss the ECB stooge.

Just because he scored a few runs once doesn’t mean that he’s forever exempt from criticism….

If you caught him shagging your wife would you just pat him on the arse and say “No worries Straussy lad, it’s all worth it for Brisbane 2010!”


That remark is just as brainless as what you accuse them of, because it makes the assumption that nobody else would be coming up behind them to take their places if they did all sack it off.

Was he an "ECB stooge" when he transormed England's white ball cricket like?

No you calling him head boy and picking on his private school background is embarassing just because you dont agree on some of his suggestions about the schedule of cricket matches

bloke has a hell of a lot of integrity as he shows with the funds he is raising for charity after his wife's death, he always tries to do the best thing for English cricket, maybe just take a step back before you go on with the personal attacks on him

why cant you just say I disagree with his suggestions?

I mean the bit in bold is just embarrassing brandon mate

 

[brandon]

Looking at it again, how are none test hosts meant to make ends meet

They’re not, but that is exactly what FTECB want.

 

[Steak Pie]

As I said a lot of the times I believe a short format tournament just one should be in the school holidays.

I like the idea of a proper window with the focus just on that similar to the IPL but would be better T20 than the hundred.

The idea that kids are going to get of their PlayStation to go along to a county championship game in the school holidays to talk about players knowing where their off stump is and what is a good leave!! I find ludicrous.

But they might just enjoy a fast paced colorful tournament in the school holidays.

Moving the county championship to more summer months and not in April is a good thing but not person has mentioned it.

The problem is and always has been trying to keep everyone happy, we don’t need two short format competitions!

No other country does that, but we do need one short competition in peak time with all the best players available.

The short formats are played in the evening, there's no need for it to be played in the school holidays.

You might find it ludicrous, but you don't go to county games. At OT you would regularly get groups of kids coming to CC games in the summer, and you would see them playing round the back and sides of the stands while the game was on. Kids will watch cricket if it's on!

 

[brandon]

the 50 over stuff while the 100 is on just about works for me, as its quite a lot of days cricket, just make the pitches as flat as possible to get the most play in.

The 50 over competition is dog shit presently, because the better white ball players aren’t available for their counties.

We became World Champions at One Day cricket and the governing body of the country responded by completely killing the format immediately after that.

 

[Aidan11]

Speaking of Strauss during his playing days. I remember when he was loaned to another county for a game or two because he wasn't getting enough cricket in between playing for England.

The irony.

 

[The Rat]

The 50 over competition is dog shit presently, because the better white ball players aren’t available for their counties.

We became World Champions at One Day cricket and the governing body of the country responded by completely killing the format immediately after that.

I mean, i'd look at how much 50 over stuff other nations play

nice to give him absolutely no credit for our success tho

nah hes just an "ECB stooge" who "scored a few runs once"

nice mate

Speaking of Strauss during his playing days. I remember when he was loaned to another county for a game or two because he wasn't getting enough cricket in between playing for England.

The irony.

So? Why are you posting that?

there'd be no reduction in red ball cricket in his proposals btw.

 

[Steak Pie]

It cant, its tied to the broadcasting deal.

I am not getting agressive at all, you are not offering any solutions, just moaning at strauss for something he didnt cause or can do anything about.

The 100 isnt going away, so whats your solution to the schedule issue?

come up with some, instead of slagging off someone who is at least trying.

I did, but it involves scrapping the 16.4.

You could cancel it, doesn't matter how many times you say otherwise.

 

[brandon]

He didnt make the 100, he didnt put the 100 in August for the next 5 years and tie it to a broadcasting deal

thats done

he cant do anything about that.

He can. He can grow a set of bollocks, do what is right for cricket in this country and call it out for what it is.

He could’ve been the saviour of county cricket. Now he’s just another facilitator of the ECB’s committing of county cricket hari kari.

The sooner they realise that the 16.4 is killing domestic cricket, the better.

No other country play it or are in any way shape or form interested in it. The players couldn’t even give a toss about it. We had a perfectly good format in T20 that WE gave to the world and has become a global success.

The only thing that will save domestic cricket and put right the wrong of 16.4 is to admit defeat, cancel the contracts, pay whatever sponsors and broadcast companies suitable compensation and crack on with righting the ship.

It isn’t too late.

Most haven't, but that seems to be the bit you're focusing on. Is it because there's no defending the report?

Nail on the f**king head.

Nobody has once said that Strauss scheduled the 16.4, why do you keep repeating it?

Same reason that other knacker keeps ranting on about name calling.

 

[The Rat]

I did, but it involves scrapping the 16.4.

You could cancel it, doesn't matter how many times you say otherwise.

it cant be cancelled man its tied to the broadcasting deal ffs

He can. He can grow a set of bollocks, do what is right for cricket in this country and call it out for what it is.

He could’ve been the saviour of county cricket. Now he’s just another facilitator of the ECB’s committing of county cricket hari kari.

The sooner they realise that the 16.4 is killing domestic cricket, the better.

No other country play it or are in any way shape or form interested in it. The players couldn’t even give a toss about it. We had a perfectly good format in T20 that WE gave to the world and has become a global success.

The only thing that will save domestic cricket and put right the wrong of 16.4 is to admit defeat, cancel the contracts, pay whatever sponsors and broadcast companies suitable compensation and crack on with righting the ship.

It isn’t too late.


Nail on the f**king head.

Same reason that other knacker keeps ranting on about name calling.

you were on some bizarre rant about Strauss shagging your wife

maybe just take a breather for a minute.

 

[brandon]

not just stamp your feet and say get rid of 100....we need some practical solutions.

Getting rid of the cancer that is killing domestic cricket is THE practical solution.

Cut it out, right out and the rest of the body will heal.

You just dont get it do you

the 100 is tied in, it cant be removed at the minute

It can. No contract is ever permanent. It’ll cost money, but it’ll be less money than the 16.4 is haemorrhaging anyway.

 

[The Rat]

Getting rid of the cancer that is killing domestic cricket is THE practical solution.

Cut it out, right out and the rest of the body will heal.

It cant be cancelled at the minute!!! its here, deal with it, hopefully it fails and goes away, but i the mean time the adults need some solutions for the next few years

thats the reality, stop criticisng people for trying to do that

 

[brandon]

Yes it can. At the stroke of a pen.

Now you can keep repeating the same shit over and over again and getting more and more aggressive, as you do, but you'll still be wrong.

Now put your stupid straw man and emojis away.

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[The Rat]

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not it can't

also you wont hate the 100 more than me but I am realist, if the 100 is to go it will take him, and its possible but it aint going in the next few years so just deal with it.

in the mean time its about protecting what we have and schedule this year was a mess

 

[Aidan11]

So? Why are you posting that?

there'd be no reduction in red ball cricket in his proposals btw.

The County Championship will reduce from 14 games to 10. He's proposing additional red ball games involving regional sides and festivals but it's not the same thing. They're effectively friendlies. People want to watch a game with a competitive edge to it.

 

[brandon]

The idea that kids are going to get of their PlayStation to go along to a county championship game in the school holidays to talk about players knowing where their off stump is and what is a good leave!! I find ludicrous.

Seen plenty of kids down at Chester-le-street this season (and every other season since I started going 25 years ago) watching proper cricket.

The idea that is ludicrous is you making on that you know anything about county cricket when you’ve already told us countless times you aren’t interested in it.

Moving the county championship to more summer months and not in April is a good thing but not person has mentioned it.

Confirmation, not that we needed it, that you haven’t got a f**cking clue what you’re talking about.

 

[Steak Pie]

Nail on the f**king head.

Same reason that other knacker keeps ranting on about name calling.

Thing is, I'm not sure what people think can done if the 16.4 is immovable and infallible? If you're shutting down the domestic game for 5 weeks in high summer, the game is dead. I'm not sure what else anyone thinks can be done.

I'm still surprised that there's anyone out there who hasn't realise that that's the whole f***ing point of the 16.4.

it cant be cancelled man its tied to the broadcasting deal ffs

Yes, it can.

 

[brandon]

I am not playing contrarian at all, you just keep saying the same thing over and over again it is really helpful.

Like your constant “the hundred can’t be stopped” bullshit, you mean?

It’s been put to you about 8 times now, by a number of different posters, that all contracts can be broken if the parties involved want it enough.

 

[Voice of fair play]

Seen plenty of kids down at Chester-le-street this season (and every other season since I started going 25 years ago) watching proper cricket.

The idea that is ludicrous is you making on that you know anything about county cricket when you’ve already told us countless times you aren’t interested in it.


Confirmation, not that we needed it, that you haven’t got a f**cking clue what you’re talking about.

Yeah I am sure watching a team drawing a amazing 8 games out of 12 !

With dull tedious boring cricket will get the kids hooked on the game.

I suppose you going round the ground telling them it’s proper cricket though would make all the difference.

 

[brandon]

I dont want the 100, the fact you think thats contrarian tells me you dont know the definition of the word.

Oh no, I’m not calling you a contrarian because I think you want the 16.4. I’m calling you a contrarian because you absolutely will not be told that a contract can be altered/changed/cancelled at any time if the circumstances are right for it.

I could’ve thought of another word that is probably more apt, in fairness, but certain people on here get really upset about namecalling.

Was he an "ECB stooge" when he transormed England's white ball cricket like?

Ahhh, so because he was decent with the bat and as a captain and then did some good as an administrator we MUST agree that every single thing he does is magic?

Righto.