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Southampton spying compendium thread

ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK said:
He could have been caught after 5 mins but if not would he have went home? Of course not as it's the action that is breaking the rules as he's tried to spy and failed.
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Yeah my point isn’t about whether the rules were broken or not, they clearly were and Southampton should be punished.
My point is about how much boro were impacted. Should boro be rewarded and given a second chance of promotion. If they were monitored for not 5 minutes, they wouldn’t have been negatively impacted through knowledge of their plans. If they were watched over an extended period of time, they could have been negatively impacted and perhaps should be put through to the final.
 

Cappuccino Kid said:
I think it was the BBC who ran an article the other week about the measures the top Premier League clubs have in place to prevent this type of thing from happening. Chelsea even had permission to erect stuff at a local train station, as otherwise it would give line of sight into their training pitches.

Just goes to show that it is taken very seriously.
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As it should be, but not having those protections in place isn't mitigation for an offender.
 
Cee Jay said:
Yeah that's the same thing :lol:

Go and see how you get with filming at Arsenal or most if not all Premier training grounds.


Key security measures include:
  • Controlled Access: The entrance is gated, barrier-controlled, and manned by security personnel 24/7.
  • Strict No-Access Policy: Public and fan access is not permitted, and players are generally instructed not to stop their cars to sign autographs at the gates to prevent crowds on the surrounding residential roads.
  • Physical Barriers: The 143-acre complex is surrounded by high fences and dense bushes, and individual pitches are heavily screened to shield sessions from prying eyes or drones.
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Was more the point that IF it's considered important enough people will try.
 
joop said:
Yeah my point isn’t about whether the rules were broken or not, they clearly were and Southampton should be punished.
My point is about how much boro were impacted. Should boro be rewarded and given a second chance of promotion. If they were monitored for not 5 minutes, they wouldn’t have been negatively impacted through knowledge of their plans. If they were watched over an extended period of time, they could have been negatively impacted and perhaps should be put through to the final.
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Whether or not Boro gained an advantage is irrelevant.

Imagine an Olympic 100 metres semi-final:

A competitor makes a false start. Whether he was deliberately cheating to gain a head start, or whether he involuntarily twitched aand triggered the sensor it's counted as an infringement regardless.

After checking the technology, the runner is immediately disqualified and the other seven sprinters compete for a place in the final.
 
stevo said:
Agree,I know its a bit boring to keep going back to Coventry carry on but they were found guilty straight away .They kicked into the long grass as we waited for the punishment to be announced,they got a small fine and warned as to their future conduct and we were relegated.
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I know your point, but it is slightly different in that was very public and easy to prove. We do have to prove Southampton did it first before anything. And now, within the rules, they are entitled to so much time to prepare a defence, etc.
 
Banks said:
Well they have history of being punished for refusing to play a fixture with the food poisioning i think against blackburn. You cant blame Boro for playing when theyve been punished for not playing in the past
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I don't blame them. But they can't complain about spying if they're happy to play the fixture and hedge their bets.
 
Shady Lane said:
143 pages.

You're not allowed to watch or film your rivals training in the 72 hours prior to a game. Southampton did. Open & shut case.
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It’s open and shut that they’re guilty.

What’s not open and shut is the punishment because nothing is written into the rules about what the punishment will be.
PoolsMackem123 said:
I don't think its people on here that's the problem - seems an overwhelming consensus saying they look guilty as fuck. Problem is with the punishment and what that should be, as that is not clearly articulated
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Bang on.
 
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