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Redandwhitedust said:
I think this is overplayed.
Were not Manchester United or Liverpool, with vast amounts of overseas fans who make a once in a lifetime trip from Taiwan or the US to watch a match so they can claim to be a fan.

Our day trippers will be people like me who support the lads, follow them from a distance but simply cannot afford the time or cost of a 10hr round trip for a football match all that often. (In the championship i managed 4 home games)

Or theyll be students at Durham/Sunderland universities. Or people from afar working in the area who just like football. Whenever ive worked away ive tried to get to a local match just for something to do.

Either way the fact theyre coming should be celebrated. Theyre paying money through the turnstiles and if they enjoy themselves they might do it again.

The only time these "daytrippers" become a problem is if it means local fans cant get tickets. And thats where the discussion over stadium expansion starts.
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On Saturday I was talking to a very nice lad from Singapore that had flown over to watch Arsenal (he was sitting in our end).

The PL is such a huge worldwide product, people will travel from every part of the world to see their team. If it’s easier/cheaper to get tickets in Sunderland, rather than Utd or Liverpool, they will go to Sunderland.
 
Hank Scorpio said:
On Saturday I was talking to a very nice lad from Singapore that had flown over to watch Arsenal (he was sitting in our end).

The PL is such a huge worldwide product, people will travel from every part of the world to see their team. If it’s easier/cheaper to get tickets in Sunderland, rather than Utd or Liverpool, they will go to Sunderland.
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So we might get a handful when we play the big 4 or 5 teams at home. But when its Brentford or Villa I think its unlikely to make much difference!
 
Julio Mackemo said:
Must 8-10k.....
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Nah mate. The planned work to the East Stand is mainly around improving hospitality options after we missed on a few big gigs.

Although we may see an increase in capacity through the work, they are not planning on chucking on an extra tier. So rather than 46500, we might see 49000

The new work though, might be able to facilitate the move of the away fans to the NEC. That way the 900 seats in NSU balcony become available again
Redandwhitedust said:
So we might get a handful when we play the big 4 or 5 teams at home. But when its Brentford or Villa I think its unlikely to make much difference!
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Probably not mate but I think you will see a lot of tourists if tickets are more available.

The mags have been complaining about it for a couple of seasons now
 
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Hank Scorpio said:
Nah mate. The planned work to the East Stand is mainly around improving hospitality options after we missed on a few big gigs.

Although we may see an increase in capacity through the work, they are not planning on chucking on an extra tier. So rather than 46500, we might see 49000

The new work though, might be able to facilitate the move of the away fans to the NEC. That way the 900 seats in NSU balcony become available again


Probably not mate but I think you will see a lot of tourists if tickets are more available.

The mags have been complaining about it for a couple of seasons now
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There is no way that the East stand development won't be in the same style as the West Stand.

Deeper concourse maybe but it will be another tier
 
Brian Griffin said:
There is no way that the East stand development won't be in the same style as the West Stand.

Deeper concourse maybe but it will be another tier
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Unless things have changed, any development of the east stand will be in two stages.

The first is basically what I have just said. The second, will be the extra tier if it’s ever required.

I actually think it’s more likely they “upgrade” the East and then focus on the South if we need more seats
 
Hank Scorpio said:
Nah mate. The planned work to the East Stand is mainly around improving hospitality options after we missed on a few big gigs.

Although we may see an increase in capacity through the work, they are not planning on chucking on an extra tier. So rather than 46500, we might see 49000

The new work though, might be able to facilitate the move of the away fans to the NEC. That way the 900 seats in NSU balcony become available again


Probably not mate but I think you will see a lot of tourists if tickets are more available.

The mags have been complaining about it for a couple of seasons now
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It will be another tier i think
 
Hank Scorpio said:
Nah mate. The planned work to the East Stand is mainly around improving hospitality options after we missed on a few big gigs.

Although we may see an increase in capacity through the work, they are not planning on chucking on an extra tier. So rather than 46500, we might see 49000

The new work though, might be able to facilitate the move of the away fans to the NEC. That way the 900 seats in NSU balcony become available again


Probably not mate but I think you will see a lot of tourists if tickets are more available.

The mags have been complaining about it for a couple of seasons now
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What planned work is that? Any plans for it going about?
 
Skylon said:
It will be another tier i think
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That’s a lot of seats mate. I just can’t see it at this stage.

What I will say is, if they go ahead with any update of the East, adding the extra tier should be a pretty quick process in the future.
Sid said:
What planned work is that? Any plans for it going about?
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It’s mostly rumour mate but I was told about a year ago they were very keen to improve the East Stand facilities after we missed out on Taylor.
 
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Can get rid of the perspex covers over the dugouts first - think we’re one of the last in the prem with them. Paint the concrete behind and will look class. Imagine they’re exposed to the rain though so it’s why we still have em?
 
Hank Scorpio said:
Nah mate. The planned work to the East Stand is mainly around improving hospitality options after we missed on a few big gigs.

Although we may see an increase in capacity through the work, they are not planning on chucking on an extra tier. So rather than 46500, we might see 49000

The new work though, might be able to facilitate the move of the away fans to the NEC. That way the 900 seats in NSU balcony become available again


Probably not mate but I think you will see a lot of tourists if tickets are more available.

The mags have been complaining about it for a couple of seasons now
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They can't add 3,000 extra seats without making the stand significantly bigger and to be honest the easiest way to do that is to add an extra tier. They could add loads of corporate and reduce the capacity though.
 
Hank Scorpio said:
That’s a lot of seats mate. I just can’t see it at this stage.

What I will say is, if they go ahead with any update of the East, adding the extra tier should be a pretty quick process in the future.


It’s mostly rumour mate but I was told about a year ago they were very keen to improve the East Stand facilities after we missed out on Taylor.
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Corparate in second tier
 
People on here saying this was happening a yeqr ago and it was going to be announced and started summer 2025... nowts been said.

All seems like Chinese whispers still at this point to me
 
Hank Scorpio said:
Nah mate. The planned work to the East Stand is mainly around improving hospitality options after we missed on a few big gigs.

Although we may see an increase in capacity through the work, they are not planning on chucking on an extra tier. So rather than 46500, we might see 49000

The new work though, might be able to facilitate the move of the away fans to the NEC. That way the 900 seats in NSU balcony become available again


Probably not mate but I think you will see a lot of tourists if tickets are more available.

The mags have been complaining about it for a couple of seasons now
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I would have thought they’d at least put another tier on the East Stand, it the side with most development room around it.
 
Forget tourists .. the demand is there for another 5k tickets certainly so to do the south stand , assuming this is cheapest option, and with ongoing sheepfold development then this makes sense to do first IMO … but either way the demand is there , over to the club to decide if want to go for it or happy to remain as we are
 
Hank Scorpio said:
Nah mate. The planned work to the East Stand is mainly around improving hospitality options after we missed on a few big gigs.

Although we may see an increase in capacity through the work, they are not planning on chucking on an extra tier. So rather than 46500, we might see 49000

The new work though, might be able to facilitate the move of the away fans to the NEC. That way the 900 seats in NSU balcony become available again


Probably not mate but I think you will see a lot of tourists if tickets are more available.

The mags have been complaining about it for a couple of seasons now
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I can't understand how you could do that without adding an extra tier, as you'd end up with a pretty significant reduction in capacity and a lot of displaced season ticket holders (with no where for them to go) while still footing the majority of the bill for the expansion.

If Sheepfolds isn't an issue then a focus on the East stand and corporate facilities over maximizing seat numbers makes the most sense, but you're going to have to put on an additional tier to do that.
 
brain_stew said:
I can't understand how you could do that without adding an extra tier, as you'd end up with a pretty significant reduction in capacity and a lot of displaced season ticket holders (with no where for them to go) while still footing the majority of the bill for the expansion.

If Sheepfolds isn't an issue then a focus on the East stand and corporate facilities over maximizing seat numbers makes the most sense, but you're going to have to put on an additional tier to do that.
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Yeah that's a good point actually if we're removing chunks of seats for posh seats you're gonna have a lot of pissed off fans being shifted for thst
 
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