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Sam Allardyce

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rocky said:
Id say a great manager was SAF, Coughie, Mourinho, Paisley

Allardyce has done a good job.

Imo you're over egging his achievements a tad, sorry quite a bit.
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SAF and Mourinho - big successes with huge resources, otherwise not proven.
 

Hawyatt Earp said:
Honestly, I reckon 9th/10th this coming season.

This escape is very different to all the others. Something changed in January imo (rather than the usual April/May winning run). The players are totally bought into his ethos and the work rate improved. If we get off to a decent start I think we could find ourselves mid-table all season.
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Any odds for top half finish yet ?
 
rocky said:
Id say a great manager was SAF, Coughie, Mourinho, Paisley

Allardyce has done a good job.

Imo you're over egging his achievements a tad, sorry quite a bit.
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They eclipse greatness by quite a way to be fair. You're under selling the best. All depends how one sets their spectrum I suppose.
 
Sam's the man.

I would be much happier if he weeded out the last of the folks who have been with us for years and have always been , and always will be, relegation fodder - Cattermole, Larsson and Fletcher primarily.

Others like Graham were bench-warmers anyway and will be moved on regardless.

Fresno Bob said:
I've really enjoyed going to the match lately, and for the first time in years it doesn't feel like a soul destroying experience.

Don't care if he's okay, good, great or whatever. I was sceptical of him, but he looks like being the best 'fit' for the club since Reidy. :)
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Agreed
 
Manny F said:
SAF and Mourinho - big successes with huge resources, otherwise not proven.
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SAF had success at small clubs. Mourinho didn't spend much at Porto.

Morny said:
I think we'll finish anywhere from 10th to 14th (depending on signings).

His strengths are that he can organise a team, is quite canny tactically and isn't willing to take players f***ing about. Also seems able to tow the line between commanding respect but also being able to look after the players.

Despite my misgivings about him (which remain), I do think that he seems a pretty good fit for the club and seems to have clicked with the fans, which is a big thing and can hopefully carry us on to better glories.
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This. Good post.
 
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A non-negative goal difference will do me.

Jessie said:
What are his key strengths? I read an old article on The Guardian last week. It was written when he was just appointed by you and I think it's a very decent piece. I just did a search and it was posted on here back then. But still, it's worth a read if you haven't seen it before:

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<< [Andy Morrison, his captain at Blackpool said] He works with the players he’s got to get the best out of them. And if Sam had been given better players to work with I believe he would have won leagues. He’s that good. The problem he’s had is the ignorance of others for me – people who don’t know the man. Just ask any player who’s ever played for him, whether it’s Jay-Jay Okocha, players of that calibre, and they’ll say what a good manager he is. He’s had success everywhere he’s been, whether it’s trying to get a team that are struggling into a better position or a mid-table team into a top six as at Bolton. >>

:D
 
woodlebert said:
Has undoubtedly improved us since coming in. We are better organised, have more tenacity and are fitter.

1.Where do we think he can take us next seasons?

2.What do you think his key strengths are as a manager?

3.Do you think that, as an ex-player, he is a better fit for the club, understanding the area and fans and therefore better at communicating this to the players?
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1. 10-14th next year hopefully. Biggest thing would be no relegation battle. I do perversely enjoy them, but we cant keep on doing it. 2nd year 8th-12th with a good cup run. 3rd year onward establish ourselves as a top half and cup team.

2. Tough to put into words. Bags of experience. Players it seems have respect for him but can also have a laugh. Good trait to have in a boss. A clear defined way of playing, something that we have lacked of late. Takes no shit from media, refs etc (has our backs basically)

3. Not sure if him being a ex player can be quantified. But one thing is for sure. BSA defo gets us and the club. He's a perfect fit for us atm. I really hope Ellis see's what we see and gives him all the backing he needs and gives him a nice bumper contract. It would be so amazing if we could get Sam here for a few years. God we need that stability. Changing managers so often really doesn't help us on so many levels.
 
I'll be happy with not getting to the end of the season still looking over our shoulder.

The last few seasons we have got off to a dreadful start. I hope he can break that habit for us.
 
Hawyatt Earp said:
Honestly, I reckon 9th/10th this coming season.

This escape is very different to all the others. Something changed in January imo (rather than the usual April/May winning run). The players are totally bought into his ethos and the work rate improved. If we get off to a decent start I think we could find ourselves mid-table all season.
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I get that feeling too.
 
I think with 3 more signings of the ilk of KKK we'll be just fine in lower mid table ish? With a decent season to look forward to.

My worry is the cups. Is it just me imagining it or does Sam generally do pretty badly in tournaments apart from the final with Bolton?
 
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