Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)

[forzamilansafc]

Mad we see Men from the Ukraine taking up arms and kissing goodbye to their kids to defend their country.

Meanwhile many men in britain have spent 2 years crying about their civil rights because the pubs were shut for a bit and they had to stick a mask on for 20 mins to go into Aldi.

You’re obsessed with covid

 

[Horatio Pugwash]

Absolutely but you don’t need to win hearts and minds for that to happen.

That was what I was posting bud. Cripple them, force their hand

 

[Sam Handwich]

Don't allow any fcker to travel between Russia and the civilised world.
Cripple the fckers

Keep them out of the greek isles and Cyprus anarl. I'm off there soon.

 

[---Nemo---]

I don't. But I think if there is enough unrest in Russia Putin's hold on power could be short lived. He would certainly be waiting for the knock on the door

Hundreds arrested already. A lot of people remember the Zinc coffins.

 

[r@mside]

Feels like we are only a few steps away from

AND NOW WE ARE GOING TO LIVE TO UKRAINE WHERE THERE'S BEEN ANOTHER BOMB, BUT WHAT SIDE HAS IT FALLEN FOR THIS TIME 'CHARLIE'......

There was a CNN crew filming Russian troops in the airport outside Kyiv. Could only have been 25 yards away and in clear sight of them, that kind of access usually requires permission.

 

[Harry Angstrom]

That was what I was posting bud. Cripple them, force their hand

I was responding to @Shambo who mentioned this. I agree with you

 

[Suomifinland]

The Generals who have to control them do. If Putin becomes a liability.....

Hit them here...

London - confiscate property linked to influencial or bent Russians.
France/Monaco - same.
Alps - same
Lobby luxury good shops to not deal with them. If Italy won't embargo them then shame the designers.
Prevent Boeing /Airbus sales & encourage them to all fly Tupolevs again if Russia is so great.

 

[bahtat]

Have the council managed to light up Penshaw monument yet?

You must be logged on to see external links

some one posted that they had a couple of days ago

 

[Suomifinland]

There was a CNN crew filming Russian troops in the airport outside Kyiv. Could only have been 25 yards away and in clear sight of them, that kind of access usually requires permission.

They had permission

 

[Horatio Pugwash]

Unfortunately for Ukraine no where near enough unrest in Russia that Putin can’t easily handle right now

Right now.. agreed

How long will he be able to handle it if there is no cash or bread available

Hit them here...

London - confiscate property linked to influencial or bent Russians.
France/Monaco - same.
Alps - same
Lobby luxury good shops to not deal with them. If Italy won't embargo them then shame the designers.
Prevent Boeing /Airbus sales & encourage them to all fly Tupolevs again if Russia is so great.

Batter them financially

 

[bahtat]

Keep them out of the greek isles and Cyprus anarl. I'm off there soon.

Cyprus would be bankrupt man

 

[West_Winger]

I'm anti EU, but Biden has recommended not banning them too. There must be some real underlying reason we aren't aware of not to do so

Suspect it’s possibly that the Chinese have a similar system called CIPS and their concern may be that they can trace payments made using Swift but definitely won’t be able to if they use CIPS.

 

[forever changes]

Right now.. agreed

How long will he be able to handle it if there is no cash or bread available

I wish I shared your optimism but a lot of innocent lives will be lost before then if it happens

 

[bahtat]

Champions league final moved to Paris

 

[Horatio Pugwash]

Rocket Man seems to being doing nicely in NK, it’s Joe Public who will suffer not Putin

Rocket man has been left alone.

Russia is a very different place

 

[ravydavygravy]

Hit them here...

London - confiscate property linked to influencial or bent Russians.
France/Monaco - same.
Alps - same
Lobby luxury good shops to not deal with them. If Italy won't embargo them then shame the designers.
Prevent Boeing /Airbus sales & encourage them to all fly Tupolevs again if Russia is so great.

Better still just round them up and drop them back off home. Say goodbye to nice places.

 

[Horatio Pugwash]

I wish I shared your optimism but a lot of innocent lives will be lost before then if it happens

I was countering the "win hearts and minds" argument which could take years

What are the options? WW3?

 

[Bullettooth]

Depends what you mean by "this". The invasion itself is down to Putin, he's officially the aggressor and breaking international law. That's clear enough and easy to see he's to blame for that.

When historians look back at these conflicts, they look deeper into the roles of the various players, internal and external political pressures which contribute to the conflict. Zelensky inherited a very delicate situation and promised a peaceful end to the civil war - I don't think he handled it well. I can't say how much difference it would have made, none of us can if we're being honest, but he's done as much sabre rattling as anyone here and finds himself fighting off an invasion force.

So what should he have done differently? Considering he has a madman on his doorstep who has previously invaded and despite what Putin says dreams of rebuilding the ussr.

 

[Georgewhitt]

Champions league final moved to Paris

They'll have to move it again then, because the French are already considering surrendering, just in case.....

 

[10 Gary Rowells]

Had any of us heard of SWIFT before this let alone understand it

Yes, many a time when you make an international transaction. Its a very common thing and I think it would be harmful to many Russians. One of the drivers for Putin is the potential of unrest at home. He is worried about Ukraine being a democracy on his doorstep and Russian asking the obvious question of why can't they have democracy. There have already been mass demonstrations against Putin in Moscow. If the Russian people see their lives being made harder or high Russian troop casualties then he will worry about the people turning. He knows change can come quickly in Russia. Reading more about it one of the worries if they are denied SWIFT is that they may use a Chinese alternative.

It's not the EU but certain EU countries, mainly Italy & Germany.

No, I get that and that was my point. At times like these and also when vaccines becaime available you can see some drawbacks with the EU and their inability to make swift decisions.