Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)

[Shambo]

We need to cripple the Russian economy. Not a drip, drip of sanctions. 100% all out, cut them off from the civilised world.
Fck them where it hurts.

I am torn on this. I have a natural feeling to say the same as you, make the life of Russia difficult to put pressure on Putin from within. But history shows that a country made to go through something like that does not come out of it well. As well as Ukraine/the west winning this war against Russia, we need the Russian people to be on board with us afterwards. 'winning the hearts and minds' (to use a trashy american phrase) of the average Russian could go a long way to helping create peace for many years after this current war.

 

[Botchie]

Anyone heading that way on their holidays this year?
I have to admit that my geography of the area isn’t great but when I looked I was surprised how many popular U.K. destinations are very close geographically to Ukraine.
I bet the travel industry loves Putine as much as they love covid

I'm going to Krakow at Easter and was looking at Talin in August.

 

[beverly macca]

The oligarchs and wealthy need to be pariahs stuck in Russia until they sort out Putin. Cancel as many visas as possible.

I think that’s pretty much impossible. It would be nice but they will be long gone imo.

 

[Horatio Pugwash]

I am torn on this. I have a natural feeling to say the same as you, make the life of Russia difficult to put pressure on Putin from within. But history shows that a country made to go through something like that does not come out of it well. As well as Ukraine/the west winning this war against Russia, we need the Russian people to be on board with us afterwards. 'winning the hearts and minds' (to use a trashy american phrase) of the average Russian could go a long way to helping create peace for many years after this current war.

How would we do that?
Whilst innocents are dying in Ukraine

 

[forever changes]

When they can't get cash out of the cashpoint or bread from the bakery they'll lift their heads out of the sand

Could be Ryanair

You think Putin cares about his own people ?
This is a personal mission and he won’t be deflected from it while he holds the power

 

[bahtat]

Fair comment mate. The reasons listed by the EU are very weak - keep it in their back pocket for later but I accept that I am way off having any real knowledge on this. That some of the EU leaders - Dutch, Irish etc. are desperate for this to happen suggests it is one of the key sanctions that could cause immediate hurt to the Russians.

Had any of us heard of SWIFT before this let alone understand it

 

[Suomifinland]

I'm going to Krakow at Easter and was looking at Talin in August.

Finland in summer.

 

[Harry Angstrom]

I am torn on this. I have a natural feeling to say the same as you, make the life of Russia difficult to put pressure on Putin from within. But history shows that a country made to go through something like that does not come out of it well. As well as Ukraine/the west winning this war against Russia, we need the Russian people to be on board with us afterwards. 'winning the hearts and minds' (to use a trashy american phrase) of the average Russian could go a long way to helping create peace for many years after this current war.

The Russian people have very little say in who runs their country. They never have.

 

[Horatio Pugwash]

You think Putin cares about his own people ?
This is a personal mission and he won’t be deflected from it while he holds the power

I don't. But I think if there is enough unrest in Russia Putin's hold on power could be short lived. He would certainly be waiting for the knock on the door

 

[beverly macca]

Don't allow any fcker to travel between Russia and the civilised world.
Cripple the fckers

It’s too late. All these new marinas and ports have been built on Russia. Money.

 

[Botchie]

I've got Turkey booked for April. Got the remaining balance to pay today, but unsure what to do now.

Turkey will be fine. People have been holidaying closer to Syria than Ukraine for years. Infact if you're going to the Antalya area it might be quieter as there won't be any Russian tourists.

 

[Harry Angstrom]

I think that’s pretty much impossible. It would be nice but they will be long gone imo.

Long gone? What is the point of having billions if you have nowhere to show it off.

 

[Horatio Pugwash]

The Russian people have very little say in who runs their country. They never have.

The Generals who have to control them do. If Putin becomes a liability.....

 

[Botchie]

Finland in summer.

I was really looking forward to visiting Talin. It's somewhere I've never been.

 

[bahtat]

Don't allow any fcker to travel between Russia and the civilised world.
Cripple the fckers

Rocket Man seems to being doing nicely in NK, it’s Joe Public who will suffer not Putin

 

[Harry Angstrom]

The Generals who have to control them do. If Putin becomes a liability.....

Absolutely but you don’t need to win hearts and minds for that to happen.

 

[forever changes]

I don't. But I think if there is enough unrest in Russia Putin's hold on power could be short lived. He would certainly be waiting for the knock on the door

Unfortunately for Ukraine no where near enough unrest in Russia that Putin can’t easily handle right now

 

[Horatio Pugwash]

It’s too late. All these new marinas and ports have been built on Russia. Money.

So?
Ban all Russian registered ships/ aircraft. Ban all shipping from using Western ports regardless of who paid for the port

 

[Bulwell]

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Very disappointing from the EU if true. This appears a way to really damage Russia. I am very much a Remainer but it seems an example of the EU at its worst.

It's not the EU but certain EU countries, mainly Italy & Germany.

 

[Paddy O'Dors]

Have the council managed to light up Penshaw monument yet?

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